Slog - Comments on Props to Sen. Cantwell http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell Clinton and Obama aren't on this list, but Sen. Maria Cantwell is. It's the list of U.S. Senators who are supporting Sen. Chris Dodd's filibuster of the telecom bill (being moved forward by Majority leader Sen. Harry Reid). The bill would grant telecom companies like AT&T immunity from lawsuits for spying on its customers. The rationale for letting AT&T off the hook—They were just following orders. It's bad legislation that sets a creeped out precedent for letting the government abuse its power by farming out civil liberties abuses to corporations. Courtesy AmericaBlog.... Copyright 2008 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:26:32 -0800 Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:19:06 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by infrequent hooray for cantwell!

]]> infrequent http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876370 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876370 News Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:27:39 -0800 Comment by SeMe why isnt murray on that list? good for maria, she is in good company with boxer and harkin. its her center left side coming out. props indeed.

]]> SeMe http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876374 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876374 News Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:29:08 -0800 Comment by Cleve This could be Exhibit No. 1 in an impeachment trial.

They want legislation to let private companies off the hook, because the administration knew it was breaking the law.

Democrats like Reid are giving "enabling legislation" a new meaning.

]]> Cleve http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876393 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876393 News Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:42:40 -0800 Comment by Tlazolteotl Well, that almost makes up for her cloture vote on Alito. Almost.

]]> Tlazolteotl http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876400 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876400 News Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:49:51 -0800 Comment by Just Me I still think that we need to send the Public Intern to stand near AT&T stores and ask customers as they leave if they are cool with Bush and Cheny listening to their phone calls.

]]> Just Me http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876419 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876419 News Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:58:47 -0800 Comment by Fifty-Two-Eighty It's a little-known fact that AT&T is ALREADY giving NSA complete access to all communications they handle - voice, email, data, you name it. And that info is being used for non-terrorism purposes, such as drug enforcement. It's also a fact that, when NSA approached Qwest about a similar arrangement, Qwest told them to fuck off.

]]> Fifty-Two-Eighty http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876436 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876436 News Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:08:12 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Kudos, Maria!

Very cool!

Besides, if you get Windows Vista SP1, they can listen to your computer info directly ... (on this slashdot article) ... so it may not matter.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876439 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876439 News Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:10:51 -0800 Comment by Cascadian It isn't as simple as it seems. The morning's vote was for cloture of the motion to proceed. The real battle comes when there's a cloture vote to end debate on the final resolution. You can find a detailed flowchart of the relevant Senate procedures here.

Likely ETA for the showdown is Friday, though there will be lots of debate and stalling tactics from here on out.

]]> Cascadian http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876463 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876463 News Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:23:07 -0800 Comment by Cascadian @6: Chris Dodd mentioned the details of the AT&T/NSA spying network. It consist(s/ed) of splitters at major points in the internet fiberoptic backbone that divert all communications to secret rooms for NSA processing with advanced search technology. This includes the major West Coast access point known as Mae West. Bottom line: they spied on every bit of internet traffic going out in this country, and for all we know are still doing it.

That might only be one of several surveillance programs, too, as administration officials like Alberto Gonzalez when questioned about all this used very careful language talking about specific programs rather than surveillance in general.

]]> Cascadian http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876470 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876470 News Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:28:20 -0800 Comment by John Keep in mind, Obama and Clinton effectively voted no by not showing up.

]]> John http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876488 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876488 News Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:36:16 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle No, it's 60 percent, so not showing up doesn't change the vote, John.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876506 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876506 News Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:43:12 -0800 Comment by Cleve But Will they aren't making an issue of it even as the national media focuses on them in endless trivial detail.

They could do more to spotlight this abuse of power than any other two Senators.

Are they really for change?

]]> Cleve http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876540 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876540 News Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:59:02 -0800 Comment by kim what about "president cantwell"? (kidding)

]]> kim http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876874 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/props_to_sen_cantwell#c876874 News Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:19:06 -0800