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on December 13 at
I always wondered about the last, lost line Bill Murray whispered to Scarlet Johansson at the end of Lost in Translation.
Those of you who loved the movie and thought it was perfect should probably savor the mystery. For the rest of us:
Feh, I still don't like this movie.
And yes, I realize I may be the only person on the planet who doesn't.
Mmmm I love that movie. She used to be so cool, back in the LIT and GWTPE days. Now..not so much.
That actually made it even better.
It wasn't "thanks for the hummer"? i was sure i heard that. the movie was still gr8 though.
Loved the film, but picture Dame Judi Dench in the Bill Murray role opposite Zac Efron and you realize the weirdness about the age difference.
Society can just be so sexist.
I am the second person in the world who didn't think it was that great. And yeah, the O. Andrew's right about the age difference.
Doesn't hold up for me. Also, don't both the characters live in Los Angeles? What was so significant about saying goodbye in Tokyo?
COMTE~ I'm right there with you in not liking the flick...
People who don't like this movie are heartless Nazis.
Scarlett is so freakin' cute. Gah!
Dame Judy Dench is not a good analogy (she was born in '34, Murray was born in '50). The better analogy is Cybill Shepard (HOT!).
Additionally, the age difference was intergral to the unease of the budding relationship (marriage being the other major factor). So, weirdness was inherent, but overlooked by these star-crossed lovers. I don't think it was sexism as the audience was supposed to feel that unease.
Will SOMEBODY tell the deaf person (ie, ME) what he said???????
Wow, how uninteresting. He could have said anything, but he goes with that? Why not "Im pregnant". That would have been a Shamylan twist!
I don't hear it at all.
Sorry, but I've listened to this several times since yesterday and I don't hear it as described. This is at best a guess.
Scarlett Johansen makes me very happy to be hetero.
You go away to some exotic place, you have all this time and meet someone and hang out in places that you've never been before. Other people don't speak the same language or no you, and the two of you are basically always alone together. It's all really exciting and adventurous, but it's never going to be the same back in the U.S.
None of you get that? That's what life is about. I had that adventure travelling, and it's the best. Too bad for you.
Lost and found in translation again.
"I have to be leaving, but I won't let that come between us. Ok?" Bill Murray
"出発行かなければならない今、お前けど'ましょう私たちの間にして来ました。大丈夫でしょうか？" Translated into Japanese by Google.
"You must go now, without, but, I do not come between us, the sea urchin it has done. It probably is all right?"
Translated from Japanese by Babelfish
Life is about going to one of the most interesting places in the world and then sulking in your hotel bar with a fellow American because you don't speak the language? Huh.
That translation into Japanese is terrible.
@16: Life is about going to one of the most interesting places in the world and then sulking in your hotel bar with a fellow American because you don't speak the language and find it all "exotic" and overwhelming? Huh.
I don't buy it.
And getting laid by Scarlett Johansen. Don't forget that genius.
I spent a lot of time hanging out listening to guys sing Floyd tunes in broken English in Asian bars, and I wouldn't consider it wasted. Watching ping pong balls and darts be shot around in Patpong was more interesting, but every night out is fun. Running around the streets of Dublin @ 4am is fun too. The movie apparently isn't understood by people who don't get that energy travelling.
I don't buy it either.
@20: there are reasons for their sulking- he is there on business, making stupid commercials, she is left alone due to her husband's job. You've never been in a foreign country and felt utterly alone due to the language barrier? it's fun to explore but sometimes that feeling doesn't last.
Yeah, I get that. I thought Momus had interesting things to say about the movie's relationship not just to Tokyo, but to the specific subcultures it uses as exotic backdrops to its protagonists' maundering.
I was worried about what a pile I had written, but no need. The whole point is that you're travelling and escaping your self a little. By ignoring the outside world, you are demonstrating a heightened interest in that other person. There are no slights there, it's just an exploration of human nature experiencing this sense of disembodiment.
Sometimes, that's what travelling is. It's not being yourself and experiencing things you've never experienced before (older man, younger woman, ping pong balls shot out a vagina in Patpong). That's the excitement, and the movie kind of captures people not being themselves and betraying others and the surroundings; instead focusing on exploring each other.
I saw this movie, forgot about it, lived a bunch of it, then saw it again. It's fascinating. It's like a pre-biography of my 2006!
watching the ending again made me tear up a little. i've only seen it once.
i had a similar experience when i went to live in budapest (that's in hungary, which is in europe) for a year. i met an american man, and i think the circumstances of us being foreigners in a land with a very odd language brought us together (after my fantasy of having an affair with a sexy hungarian man dissipated into reality).
The last part of his line, which is more than audible even without the magic of digital processing, is "...and tell him that you love him, okay?"
Some of get energy from traveling that doesn't consist of spending our evenings getting drunk in bars with a bunch of other tourists.
Let's see, spend the evening at the Patpong Night Market or at a bar on Khoa San road with American/Australian/British backpackers. Some choice.
For what it is worth, Google rendered actual kanji characters. I posted these to Slog. Something was lost there. (Hey add East Asian Characters or something.)
28- why would he tell her that? her husband was a failure at their marriage and not really worthy over her love.
Oh, the kanji showed up all right. But the meaning is totally borked.
the movie sucked and trying to figure out that last line at this point is stoooooooopid. asshats. who fucking cares? as far as i'm concerned he said "bet this loser director gets an award for being Coppola's daughter...."
@29, i'm totally advocating hitting the sex bars of Patpong. you need to see that once in your life. if you meet some fellow traveller of the opposite sex, drag him or her along with you. but i also watched football at a bar in an alley and bought Chang for the locals. i like to hit places off the beaten path, but i can certainly relate to lost weekends. sorry for those who don't.
rene, stop apologizing for us. We don't require your condescension, thanks.
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