Homosexuality and drug use go hand in hand, particularly if you count booze. Prostitution, not so much, but let's face facts, as a community we fags are a bit sleazy.
I am gay and am proud to have homosexuality in the same breath as prostitution and drug use. It is what being gay is all about!!! Oh yeah and BB sex, don't forget about BBing.
He's got a point.
"Cutting Edge"? I didn't know that The Stranger was making any breakthroughs in the way news is delivered. It isn't delivered to my house via a hovering robot that projects a hologram of Dan Savage in a jumpsuit reciting the news or anything cutting edge like that.
I suppose it depends on whether you find prostitution and drug use to be immoral or undesirable.
All of humanity goes hand in hand with prostitution and drug use.
Oh, I get it!
This guy thinks prostitution and drug use are bad and homosexuality is not bad.
Prostitution, semi-homelessness, drug use, crazy people, non-lethal violence and poverty are all good when viewed through rosy, foggy nostalgia.
Hey, so is Kathleen Wilson! Thanks for convincing her to write again. I'd forgotten how much I love her. My secret crushes on Lindy and Kelly and lately whats-her-name-with-the-cookies will never compete with my original secret Kathleen Wilson crush.
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Megan. That's her name. Megan.
Clearly, this person needs to speak with Ecce Homo.
Um... because all three (Homosexuality, Drug Use, and Prostitution) were considered immoral and borderline illegal necessities of city life shuttered into the same corner and ignored by the respectable people of the city who would never want their friends to see them partaking in those necessities.
Um... because you should get over yourself if you pretend to not know that refuges for the semi-criminal are also refuges for the semi-un-socially acceptable.
I say good riddance to that tacky block and welcome the Seattle's future. Who cares about Pony? A better bar will open up. And Man Ray in Manhattan would be considered tacky. As a foodie I look forward to the great restaurants coming and vibrant night life that will come with the new buildings. It will be more like Portland's Pearl district and that is a good thing.
trust eric grandy to never know where exactly in a sentence he should put the period. or actually a comma: "also, prostitution, homosexuality, and drug use" isn't even a sentence.
offensive content paired with offensive grammar.
Issur, enjoy another Subway and Teriaky place to replace 500 Pine! I am sure you will enjoy that. Oh, there will probaly be a nail salon and dry cleaners as well! PROGRESS!!!!
And I am sure the bars will open there too since all clubs open up in brand new construction with condos right above them. HA HA HA !!!
Yeah, I have to go along with the people who're saying the letter writer has a point.
The Stranger is merely pandering to the relatively new anti-gay Tim Burgess crowd out there that has suddenly gained a powerful foothold in Seattle and will soon invade your bedroom.
The problem with the new development is that east Pine just isn't poor enough any more. Sorry, guys.
Seattle gay culture is sleezy, and most of the stranger staff and slog readers seem to take pride in that. If any of the queers here would visit or live in the Castro, (I did for 10 years), you would shake your head at what passes for gay culture in Seattle. It makes me want to gag sometimes. While Seattle is very gay friendly, you guys act like you live behind closed doors in Des Moines. (Doesn't really surprise do to most of you being transplants). Toilet cruising, voluteer park, Pony, etc... are signs of a very unhealthy scene riddled with insecurities and self hatred.
You are not much more beyond gang bangs in gay bookstores. You just do it in toilets like Pony, and then call yourself "edgy".
Six shooter, your point might have made sense back in the 1960s or 70s, when gay life was acutely marginalized -- to Pioneer Square, other parts of downtown, and later Broadway. By the time Pike/Pine "became gay", it wasn't.
Ecce, I can always tell a post is yours by the time I've read the first sentence. Your point of view is always so fresh and interesting.
I think you'd be a fantastic guest blogger next Freaky Friday!
Yup, bad phrasing.
That dude is reading way too far into that letter and needs to chill the fuck out and/or choose a more worthwhile battle, like with actual bigots.
I dunno -- I can go either way on that one. I wouldn't have noticed it if someone didn't call attention to it.
Man, this comments thread is depressing me.
Have to agree that the part I enjoyed the best was written by Kathleen Wilson.
And I enjoyed her correct observations about how insular that area can be.
Even though I enjoyed visiting it during SantaCon outings ...
I'm with @22. I wouldn't have noticed it, but unless it was some sort of meta-commentary or joke, the wording seems slightly problematic.
That kinda bugged me, too, but it happens a lot.
I don't think Eric was being a dick, though, (isn't he gay?) and back in the day, of course, homosexuality WAS considered the same as prostitution and drug addiction.
Considering the recent outcry in posted in Slog decrying the Lifelong Aids campaign "condoms and meth go together" , I'd have to say the writer of this letter has a point. The negative response to that campaign when listed in Slog was overwheming. It can't be both ways. If Lifelong erred in linking gays and drug use, linking gays and drug use in an article in the Stranger is equally bad, or at least editorially inconsistent.
People:
1) Eric's not gay.
2) I am.
3) I added the word "homosexuality" there because it's funny. Shall I explain why it's funny? Are you familiar with Republican rhetoric about homosexuality?
@ Christopher, you're gay?? No way!!
I guess the SLOG comments are now going to be yet another extension of repulsive gay singles hook up ad's.
I had no idea that anus's were so hard to come by.
Christopher, I know it's cooler to have homosexuality in there, but I think the writer has a point. Putting homosexuality in there along with illegal activity seems like the writer is trying to continue to couch gay = subversive. (and of course, subversive = extra cool.)
Gay = just as boring as everyone else. (BTW, are lesbians in this drugs/prostitution category? Or just cool, subversive gay men?)
And yes, it was funny, but I see the point.
@30 Anuses aren't terribly hard to come by. When we want an asshole, we just look to you.
@32, Goal!
#4 - Win.
Pike/Pine is Seattle's Mortville, and when you tear that out of our civic body, you might as well throw a mudball at Queen Carlotta.
So there.
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