Slog - Comments on I Guess This is One Way to Transcend Polarized Politics... http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol The New York Times takes a look at Obama's no-votes in the Illinois legislature: In 1999, Barack Obama was faced with a difficult vote in the Illinois legislature — to support a bill that would let some juveniles be tried as adults, a position that risked drawing fire from African-Americans, or to oppose it, possibly undermining his image as a tough-on-crime moderate. In the end, Mr. Obama chose neither to vote for nor against the bill. He voted “present,” effectively sidestepping the issue, an option he invoked nearly 130 times as a state senator. Sometimes the “present’ votes were in... Copyright 2008 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:22:58 -0800 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:56:00 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Just Me Ugghh... Obama was almost going to get a check from me this month; guess not now.

I am still trying to think of him as better than Hillary. But I think I will vote Green instead.

]]> Just Me http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879157 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879157 2008 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:33:51 -0800 Comment by max solomon so the point is: he's a politician?

hildog, people who live in glass houses...

]]> max solomon http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879159 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879159 2008 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:34:02 -0800 Comment by elenchos I can see a governor or a mayor attacking a legislator this way, but what good is it going to do for a Senator to go after another Senator for legislative twisting? What choice do you have when faced with bills that both feed babies and kill puppies? Get nailed for voting against babies or get nailed for voting against puppies?

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879161 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879161 2008 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:34:18 -0800 Comment by poster Girl read the whole article before you get all upset. Josh is a Hill supporter.

]]> poster Girl http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879200 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879200 2008 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:41:43 -0800 Comment by Trey Josh, Paul Krugman just called for you. He'd like his meme back.

]]> Trey http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879216 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879216 2008 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:44:27 -0800 Comment by Adam I agree with poster Girl @4. If you read the entire article, the present votes are put into context. A context that makes Obama look like the shrewd, intelligent person he is.

]]> Adam http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879237 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879237 2008 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:50:23 -0800 Comment by infrequent so he voted present. you expect different actions from different people. when you are young you want to protest and fight the power... but you might make a mistake if you skipped out on higher education, which could be used to support the causes you believe in later.

you have to work your way up. you can demonstrate that you have leadership potential before you are an actual leader. but you shouldn't be judged as a leader before you really had the power.

]]> infrequent http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879486 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879486 2008 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:35:10 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle It's amusing that Josh would have had a freak fit if he hadn't even voted ...

Look, Josh, we know you want to work in the MSM, but propping up Clinton and Guiliani won't get you that MSM job, even if that's what they do.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879840 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c879840 2008 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:09:35 -0800 Comment by dear god Is there some way to identify Will's posts before I waste time reading them?

]]> dear god http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c880295 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/i_guess_this_is_one_way_to_transcend_pol#c880295 2008 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:59:34 -0800 Comment by Phoebe Read the update, people, posted more recently. Or - SLOG could post the update here! On this post!

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