Slog - Comments on Good Thing We Didn't Rebuild the Damn Thing Before the Governor Got Around to "Thinking Broadly" http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi From the Seattle Times... Gregoire now open to options besides viaduct replacement Over the past few months, Gov. Christine Gregoire has become more open to considering a surface-and-transit future for the Seattle waterfront, instead of replacing the old Alaskan Way Viaduct with another highway. Gregoire said she has begun to think broadly about mobility and about Seattle's future as an "international city"--marked by population growth, a leading seaport and increased tourism--that needs a hospitable waterfront. "If this is to be an international city, we'll have to look at the entire system. Once you do that, the surface option becomes an... Copyright 2008 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:54:52 -0800 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:59:25 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Greg Better late than never, I suppose. It's not like the Viaduct is rebuilding itself.

The surface / transit replacement, if it happens, had better have a trolley down the median.

]]> Greg http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c871998 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c871998 News Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:08:13 -0800 Comment by Cow Thanks, Gregoire. Welcome to 2004.

]]> Cow http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872009 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872009 News Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:19:21 -0800 Comment by Dino Beano Dino Rossi will sort it all out. You'll see.

]]> Dino Beano http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872011 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872011 News Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:20:43 -0800 Comment by max solomon she's done the math:

viaduct rebuild = loss in 2008.

]]> max solomon http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872050 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872050 News Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:47:31 -0800 Comment by Anon Streetcars in the median rock! SLUTs in the curb lane, not so much.

Stupid road planning bike ride today:
http://seattlelikesbikes.org/index.php?page=events

]]> Anon http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872082 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872082 News Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:12:20 -0800 Comment by Gitai If she's concerned about us becoming an international city and improving our commercial and trade capabilities, why isn't she talking about dedicated lanes or even dedicated highways for cargo? Any advantage we have of getting cargo in and out of the port more quickly means we're more competitive and get more money for us.

]]> Gitai http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872093 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872093 News Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:15:04 -0800 Comment by monkey #1 took the words right out of my mouth... better late than never.

]]> monkey http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872156 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872156 News Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:44:57 -0800 Comment by ecce homo If you turn it into a surface option, where are all the poor bums going to sleep, shit and shoot up? Plus, Seattle needs a good spot to get away with a rape.

We have to think of those less fortunate.

]]> ecce homo http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872174 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872174 News Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:54:13 -0800 Comment by -B- By using the buzz word "International City" I can only assume there is some master plan in the works to revamp Seattle.
Our Buzz word in Vancouver was "World Class City". But I just find using the word "class" to describe anything is kinda tacky as in "Real Classy". So I can see why "International City" would be a better choice for government speak to spin some future vision of Seattle.
Let's face it most of the waterfront will be redesigned to bring in tourist dollars and build extremely pricey condos. There is enough room down there to build a 2 road system to move people along with condos parks and retail. If someone had some vision it could be done over the next 10 years. It could be done like the new Olympic village in Vancouver "all Green development". Buildings that have a low green house foot print. It is easy to spin because it is popular. Redevelopment in that area can only improve the whole waterfront which is going to waste. There is not even any access to the water.

]]> -B- http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872179 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872179 News Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:03:40 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle @8 - under I-5 and I-90 of course.

Geesh, you don't get out much, do you?

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872321 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872321 News Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:27:15 -0800 Comment by Daniel K I wonder how many people from other cities have been telling her that Seattle would be a more on par with progressive world class cities if it just had a real transit system and didn't wall itself off from the water with a road like the viaduct double decker eyesore. After a while that's got to sink in I guess.

]]> Daniel K http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872349 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872349 News Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:52:14 -0800 Comment by K I know, we could run a streetcar route on the Alaskan Way surface street. Then we wouldn't need the viaduct at all.

Too bad no one's thought of that.

(If someone were to build such a thing, I'd recommend it be called the Seattle Highway Ignorance Trolley.)

]]> K http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872366 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/good_thing_we_didnt_rebuild_the_damn_thi#c872366 News Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:59:25 -0800