Facts:
- Gore was never going to run again
- Gore should never run again
- Maureen Dowd has had no say in anything since 1982, when she brought that party-crashing bullshit mixtape to a party. Nobody every told her that Pink Floyd sucks.
- Hillary is going to be our next President
- We've never had a good President
Thank you.
*ever. Fuck.
"Because I feel like Hillary has some of her husband in her."
Doesn't this run contrary to recent rumors?
Met a few of my relatives today, die-hard Republicans all. They hate Hillary, but also hate Rudy. And they said they'd vote for Obama.
Just though I'd add that to the pile of anecdata.
Biden is Right!
I like both Clinton and Obama. I prefer Barack, but I'd be relatively happy with Hillary too. I do think Barack's got a better chance of winning.
Sheep! Ba-aaaaa...
Obama is a moron when it comes to healthcare and foreign policy. He would make a good VP at best. Christ I hope he doesn't go head to head with Rudy or Huckabee. Dude would LOSE.
i'm also starting to think obama doesn't have the proper chops for the job. damn, i really liked edwards, but it's clear he doesn't have a chance. and i stand by my prediction that clinton is going to pull a reverse-bush (as in: be more liberal once in office than she presents herself now) if elected, so i don't despair about her winning.
don't trust Clinton - she would be as secretive, if not more, than Bush and I'm tired of the legacy candidate. It's time to move to the future and to stop fighting the meme of past hatreds. Obama is for the future and reminds me of Lincoln.
We need to say goodbye to the boomer generation and move on.
I keep waiting to be impressed with Obama. I want to like the guy. I want to have a great black President. But his performances in the debates have been fuckin' *terrible*. And I can't find any policy reason to choose him over Hilary (I don't count the war- he wasn't in the Senate in '02, and their policies going forward are identical.)
So I am forced to agree with the "an intensely gifted child whom we are rooting for and hoping doesn’t fuck up" comment. To that I would add a paraphrase of "Swingers"- Obama is the rated PG candidate, and Clinton is the rated R candidate. Be the rated R candidate, baby!
@10:
Sooooo, please answer me this: Why's yous got Lincoln on such a pedestal?
I think Obama's first four years of presidency would be solely to secure his second term. I could be kidding myself, but I think Hillary is more likely to make significant changes for this country sooner. And I do agree she will become more liberal once she gets into office.
I find myself despising Hillary and Obama about equally. I sort of like Edwards, but seem to find myself preferring Bill Richardson. Probably because I haven't been as overexposed to him.
Of course, support on Tuesdays is all that counts.
I gave up supporting Obama over three incidents. He has ambition and charisma and that's it.
He is plainly not driven by policy (as is Clinton) or justice (as is Edwards). He's just a charismatic, young, ambitious guy. Kind of like Bush -- just smarter (and black and progressive).
But, it strikes me, fundamentally like Bush.
We really don't need another Bush.
Oh the incidents were:
His support for ex-gay McClurkin; campaigning on "fixing" social security; and the Obama Campaign's attacks on Paul Krugman for daring to point out that Obama's healthcare plan is the worst of the main democratic contenders.
Yeah. We always attack people who speak truth to power. It inspires audacions hope.
the dem nomination will be in the can by the time we have anything to say about it.
i really wish cascadia could secede. fuck em.
@6 is right. Most of us are pretty happy with all the Dems this time. It's only the Repugs that don't like any of their choices.
Sen Clinton will make a great US Supreme Court Justice during the Obama/Dodd presidency (although I think an Obama/Richardson presidency will be more fun).
Wonder what it'd be like having a president who actually needs the salary and could use the lifelong pension after his/her term?
I will be in So. Cal over the holidays, Christopher. Where's that rave, again? (Actually, I'm old enough to remember when Rave was a hair product).
I am pretty convinced that if his wife weren't running, Bill Clinton would support his old comrade Bill Richardson in a heartbeat. The man's been in Congress, been on a cabinet, traveled to countries like North Korea and Iraq to secure prisoner releases (he looked Saddam Hussein in the eye - before he was dead - and made demands) and now, running New Mexico, has a reasonable immigration stance and has fought to secure health care for the residents of his own state. So why is he so far down the list of likely candidates? When I look at Obama, I see Richardson lite. If only Bill would start campaigning...
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