Slog - Comments on And the Bhutto Assassination Means... ? http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means The initial chatter on the political blogs was that it helps Clinton make her argument that this is a dangerous world in need of steady, experienced leadership. But Obama adviser David Axelrod sees it differently. To him, the Bhutto assassination means an opportunity to remind voters of Clinton's Iraq vote. REPORTER: But looking ahead, does the assassination put on the front burner foreign policy credentials in the closing days? AXELROD: Well, it puts on the table foreign policy judgment, and that's a discussion we welcome. Barack Obama had the judgment to oppose the war in Iraq, and he warned at... Copyright 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:00:36 -0800 Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:23:49 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by lostboy This is a time to be focused on the tragedy of the situation, its implications for the U.S. and the world, and to be concerned for the people of Pakistan and the country’s stability. No one should be politicizing this situation with baseless allegations.

Translation: "Shut up! Am not!"

]]> lostboy http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883583 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883583 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:08:17 -0800 Comment by NapoleonXIV It means an Islamic country with a lot of nuclear missiles is going to be having a civil war.

]]> NapoleonXIV http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883588 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883588 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:09:07 -0800 Comment by wf Eli you have a bad case of tunnel vision.

]]> wf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883591 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883591 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:10:27 -0800 Comment by Cato the Younger Younger You know, this makes Obama look even better. We need fresh leadership that is grounded in good judgement; not grounded in political expediency.

]]> Cato the Younger Younger http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883599 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883599 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:14:29 -0800 Comment by heywhatsit This is a time to be focused on the tragedy of the situation, its implications for the U.S. and the world, and to be concerned for the people of Pakistan and the country’s stability. No one should be politicizing this situation with baseless allegations.

Translation? Damn, they beat me to it!

]]> heywhatsit http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883602 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883602 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:15:47 -0800 Comment by David Wright To the Obama campaign, everything means an oportunity to remind voters of Clinton's Iraq vote.

Napoleon is right on here. The significance of this event does not lie in its effect on the U.S. presidential campaign.

]]> David Wright http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883603 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883603 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:16:02 -0800 Comment by Jimmy Legs Benazir Bhutto is the new Archduke Franz Ferdinand

]]> Jimmy Legs http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883616 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883616 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:24:50 -0800 Comment by Cato the Younger Younger Hmm, here is a thought: Some of us know that Bush has given himself a presidential directive back in May of this year to declare marshal law under certain circumstances. IF #7 is right and this triggers a "problem" with a country with nukes what are the chances that Bush may...you know use that presidential directive?

I never buy into conspiracy theories but it is something for everyone to put on the back burner of your minds. I am not saying that will happen (there are other factors to take into consideration) but just let it sit and stew in your minds for awhile.

]]> Cato the Younger Younger http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883621 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883621 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:30:56 -0800 Comment by Toy @8

What's this directive

]]> Toy http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883626 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883626 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:34:04 -0800 Comment by sunday maggie @7 and what will be the Armenian Genocide? (besides possibly a new Spielberg vehicle)

]]> sunday maggie http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883632 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883632 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:38:42 -0800 Comment by Cato the YY @9, you can still find it on the White House website. Here is the link: Enjoy!!!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html

It defines catastophe just vauge enough to cause confusion. Which, in the words of Toby Zeigler in the West Wing, you want in times of emergency.

]]> Cato the YY http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883638 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883638 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:43:29 -0800 Comment by anna Obama buying into the Al Qaeda/Islamic terrorist b.s. already? Because, you know, military dictators never killed their opponents and blamed the guerrillas/terrorists/subversives/criminals before.

]]> anna http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883653 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883653 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:56:56 -0800 Comment by shitbrain Hmm, here is a thought: Some of us know that Bush has given himself a presidential directive back in May of this year to declare marshal law under certain circumstances. IF #7 is right and this triggers a "problem" with a country with nukes what are the chances that Bush may...you know use that presidential directive?

If the Bush Administration were to declare Martial Law, I would expect California to secede from the Union (or, possibly, to simply ignore the directive), presumably to be followed in short order by other states.

Think about it. If the Bush Administration, for just three examples, is helpless to obtain law and order in Iraq and Afghanistan, is completely impotent in the face of Chavez' constant needling, and was wholly unable to achieve anything constructive in New Orleans (and say what you may about the Iraq fiasco's prominence in his fall from the graces of the American public, but pre-Katrina, Bush was still approved by about 50% of us), how in the world could it ever hope to enforce a declaration of Martial Law?

Not to say the sons of bitches won't try it. But it'd succeed about as well as everything else they've tried.

I mean, I suppose it might work out okay if it didn't affect the NFL schedule or the National Cheetos Inventory (NCI); but given recent economic news, the latter, at least, is to be considered highly unlikely.

]]> shitbrain http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883669 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883669 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:16:31 -0800 Comment by Cato the Younger Younger @Shitbrain, yeah cause we all stood up to Bush when he got rid of habeas corpus and we were all so objective right after 9-11 in dealing with what happened to us.

Never underestimate complacency in an environment of fear.

]]> Cato the Younger Younger http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883672 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883672 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:22:19 -0800 Comment by shitbrain yeah cause we all stood up to Bush when he got rid of habeas corpus and we were all so objective right after 9-11 in dealing with what happened to us.

Nobody gives a fuck about that because the Cheney/Bush civil rights violations, in practice, only affect coloreds.

Your argument here is, essentially, what I was referring to with my National Cheetos Inventory (NCI) comment: if Martial Law doesn't adversely affect caucasoid lifestyles, it might fly.

But in that instance, what would be the point? Coloreds can already be "disappeared" in to-day's environment without any corresponding political fallout; so it logically follows that if declaring Martial Law wouldn't affect the crackers, there wouldn't be any need of Martial Law.

]]> shitbrain http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883695 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883695 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:52:28 -0800 Comment by elenchos I've about had it with Clinton telling everybody what they can and can't say.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883718 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883718 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:16:04 -0800 Comment by Giffy CNN just said the following about Bhutto: "Security Experts say she exposed herself, allowing people close enough to touch her. She needed that political money shot."

Apparently she was a Republican.

]]> Giffy http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883773 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883773 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:51:13 -0800 Comment by torrentprime I love listening to the Clintons talk.
This is a time to be focused on the tragedy of the situation, its implications for the U.S. and the world... No one should be politicizing this situation with baseless allegations.

What allegations? That AQ might have attacked an anti-AQ leader? And that "allegation" doesn't have implications for the US and the world?

Translation: "Cheney was right: Fuck yourself."

]]> torrentprime http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883780 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c883780 2008 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:57:04 -0800 Comment by Sky Pete "REPORTER: But looking ahead, does the assassination put on the front burner foreign policy credentials in the closing days?"

Axelrod was responding to a 'foreign policy credentials' question not how he felt about the death of Bhutto with a link to Hillary's Iraq vote. Your framing of this issue is really misleading

]]> Sky Pete http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c884031 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/12/and_the_bhutto_assassination_means#c884031 2008 Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:23:49 -0800