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Friday, November 16, 2007

In the Shadow of Schnitzer

posted by on November 16 at 15:07 PM

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8th and Virginia, MIDTOWN!

Residents at the Cosmopolitan condos, on 8th and Virginia, are banding together to stop a massive office development from blotting out the sun on the west side of their building.

Back in 2006, before the condos opened, developer Schnitzer West was working on a 14-story office project next door to Cosmo. That April, the city changed zoning regulations and Schnitzer resubmitted design plans for a 500-foot mega-office

Last week, in response to Schnitzer’s development and, they say, a lack of response from the city, Cosmo residents posted an open letter to Mayor Nickels, decrying the public process.

Because Cosmo was still vacant when Schnitzer’s designs were changed, the city’s requirement to notify nearby residents wasn’t triggered. Because of the lack of communication from the city, Clifford Tatum, Cosmo’s Community Committee Chair, says residents didn’t have the opportunity to back out purchasing their units without losing their deposits, which were between $15,000 and $50,000. “We entered into a purchase agreement in 2005. At the time, the lot across the street was permitted for a 12-14 story building. We were fairly comfortable with that,” Tatum says.

But hey, so what if rich people don’t have a view, right? Well, Tatum claims it’s about more than that. “Itís not about the view,” he says. “Itís the fact that this building is 15 feet away. Thereís some consideration for light, for privacyóthere would be office workers looking in our windows.” Indeed, a rendering from Schnitzer’s website does seem to indicate that the 500-foot office building will eclipse Cosmo’s west side.

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Tatum says attorneys are looking into the building plans but that he’s hoping this can be settled through communication with the developer. “We donít particularly donít want to go down the lawsuit path,” he says. “[We’d like to] facilitate a better neighborly relationship. “

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In otherwords, they do not give a shit about the views THEY blocked when their building was built (The Met Tower near Westlake lost views of West Seattle due to the COSMO!!) But they are going to bitch about someone blocking their view? FUCK THEM!! Lets demo the Cosmo with everyone inside!!!

Posted by New Deal Demoncrat | November 16, 2007 3:22 PM
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I agree with NDD.

Posted by Will in Seattle | November 16, 2007 3:25 PM
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What kind of suit can they even file? what a bunch of pricks. They didn't seriously think their area was going to remain undeveloped. Morons.

Posted by seattle98104 | November 16, 2007 3:28 PM
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This is gonna get messy...

Posted by Cale | November 16, 2007 3:31 PM
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I miss Jerseys.

Posted by DOUG. | November 16, 2007 3:41 PM
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God, I pray this building is never built. And I pray no other buildings are built either. Ever. These developers keep changing Seattle. The more they change it, the more different it is and by making it different, they are making me afraid. If I wanted to see the future I'd grow up.

Posted by elenchos | November 16, 2007 3:46 PM
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I lived at both the Metro Tower on Westlake and now reside at the Cosmo. I do not believe The Cosmo blocks any views from the Metropolitan Tower.

I have no other comments other than folks could probaby express their opinion without the profanity.

Posted by Owner | November 16, 2007 3:47 PM
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If they have the right to ubild the 500 feet office building legally, the cosmo people don't have much say, they don't own that property.

I hate it when my neighbor leaves trash in the yard, but I don;t have control over it.

Life's not fair, get over it.

Posted by Andrew | November 16, 2007 3:53 PM
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Hey you angry guys up there. Are you working for a PR firm -- employed by a developer perhaps? You guys crack me up! Didn't you get caught doing this same thing at the live2200 blog?!

Posted by chester | November 16, 2007 3:55 PM
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15 feet? That's plenty. There's a great blogwar going on in the East Village right now about a new gigantic single-family home that's going to be three feet from umpteen tenement apartments' only windows.

http://www.artfagcity.com/2007/11/12/david-zwirner-upsets-the-neighbors/

Posted by Eric F | November 16, 2007 3:55 PM
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haha,take that cosmo residents!

Posted by Bellevue Ave | November 16, 2007 3:57 PM
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Wow! 3 feet!! I think I'd want to interview neighbors before they moved into my window box.

Posted by chester | November 16, 2007 3:59 PM
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what's live2200? and if there were a way to get paid for all the posts i make on slog, please tell me how to go about it.

fuckface.

omg. I SWORE!

OH THE PROFANITY!

Posted by seattle98104 | November 16, 2007 4:01 PM
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There's no vested property right to a view under Washington law, so yeaaaahhhh.....

Good luck with that....

Posted by NapoleonXIV | November 16, 2007 4:01 PM
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Don't play coy with me, seattle98104. or is it fuckface now? I'm confused by your signature.

Posted by chester | November 16, 2007 4:10 PM
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Don't play coy with me, seattle98104. or is it fuckface now? I'm confused by your signature.

Posted by chester | November 16, 2007 4:10 PM
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Besides, the truly rich know that the One True Way to preserve their view is to build right down to the waterfront.

Posted by NapoleonXIV | November 16, 2007 4:33 PM
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Every Seattle purchase and sale agreement that I've seen has included a specific clause that states the buyers cannot sue due to future loss of a view. Some even go so far as to spell out due to new construction, vegetation growth and so forth. So if this was included for the Cosmo buyers, the odds they could pursue a lawsuit successfully seem slim.

Posted by Original Andrew | November 16, 2007 4:34 PM
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WHAT A BUNCH OF SORRY WHINERS!


Original andrew knows what he is talking about!

Posted by Andrew | November 16, 2007 4:44 PM
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so which pr firm are you working for Andrew? I need to hit them up for my paycheck!

Posted by seattle98104 | November 16, 2007 4:48 PM
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Small note from the true rich, true snobs and true class above you all assholes.

Penthouse. Ten acre estate.

The rest of you are pretenders.

Sounds like many attorneys will make big fees - hurrah for the attorneys.

Any tips where to get this fucking hair done right?

Posted by Donald Trump | November 16, 2007 5:00 PM
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Just becaue you paid for a view doesn't mean you bought it.

Posted by Kevin | November 16, 2007 6:17 PM
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Schnitzer West is a wonderful Jewish developer who is dragging Seattle into the future. The "old Seattle" crowds are backwards idiots who would have downtown full of ten story buildings and vast empty plazas.

If Seattle is every going to become dense and vibrant like Manhattan, old buildings have to be torn down and the "old Seattle" crowd needs to be silenced. It's the Jewish developers like Martin Selig and Sam Israel who have laid the groundwork for what Seattle has become. Now it's time to take Seattle to the next step, a real city.

Posted by Issur | November 17, 2007 11:49 AM
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Just build it. Nothing in life (views or otherwise) is guaranteed.

Posted by Catman | November 17, 2007 12:21 PM
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Did anyone bother to read the sentence about how zoning was changed *after* the condo sale? Imagine moving into a completely residential apartment then having a gun store open in the unit next door thanks to a zoning change.

The city set themselves up for this by tightly controlling building height, and by setting developers' and buyers' expectations that consistent zoning is a buildable assumption. A puppetmaster can't complain when his puppets start talking. I think anyone would be pissed about flushing $50,000.

ObDisc: I'm not affiliated w/buildings mentioned or the industry.

Posted by Troy | November 17, 2007 3:14 PM

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