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Sunday, November 25, 2007

If You Go Out in the Woods Today…

posted by on November 25 at 20:43 PM

…actually, let’s stay the fuck out of the woods.

An Eastern Washington University student is dead after being dragged behind a pick-up truck. It happened around 11:30 Saturday night near a hunting campsite along Le Clerk Road in Pend Oreille County, north of Spokane.

Sheriff’s officials say they found 20-year-old Jerid Sturman-Camyn dead on the side of the road, tied behind the truck. The 17-year-old driver said he had no idea Sturman-Camyn was there.

The Sheriff’s Dept. says 45-year-old Wendell Sinn, Jr., tied Sturman-Camyn to the back of the truck after he threatened the hunting group with an axe. The 17-year-old, unaware of Sinn’s actions and fearing for his life, drove away, dragging the victim and causing his death.

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1

Wait, wtf? Was this kid some anti-hunting vigilante, taking the law (of the wild) into his own hands? Why was he threatening the hunting group with an axe if not that? Or maybe he was hopped up on forest mushrooms.

Posted by Matt Fuckin' Hickey | November 25, 2007 9:11 PM
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"The Sheriff’s Dept. says 45-year-old Wendell Sinn, Jr., tied Sturman-Camyn to the back of the truck after he threatened the hunting group with an axe."

Wait... Wendell Sinn, Jr., threatened the hunting group with an axe? Or was it Sturman-Camyn? I'm confused.


Posted by L | November 25, 2007 9:30 PM
3

God, how sad.

Seems the 17 year old was in over his head and just wanting to drive out of range - not a bad plan - did not know the guy was tied to the pick up.

Drinking? As usual.

Posted by Gold | November 25, 2007 9:38 PM
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fnarfzmrpoe!

Posted by look at me! | November 25, 2007 9:39 PM
5

@4 puhleze, thats so obviously not true, just fucking look at their writing, way different styles, maybe mr. poe is a different troll like issur or BallardDan, but two of the most frequent posters being the same person?

Posted by vooodooo84 | November 25, 2007 9:47 PM
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@5 sorry poe some of what i wrote could be construed as insulting to you, so please don't take it that way, you give me a raging clue

Posted by vooodooo84 | November 25, 2007 9:49 PM
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the guys name was SINN!

Posted by db | November 25, 2007 10:40 PM
8

i've never been over east of the cascades, but i've heard it's kinda conservative, or has it changed at all (for the better or worse)? let's hope this doesn't turn into another matt shepherd (sp?).

Posted by from east of miss | November 26, 2007 12:31 AM
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Look up on google the info about the kid who died. It seems he was both a wrestler and a football player. You wonder how strong/insane a guy could be to overcome a kid like that. Maybe he hit him over the head first? How absolutely tragic for his parents. And how very sad for the kid driving the truck: he must have been scared for his life. This will haunt him forever. It's like a bad horror movie.

Posted by DCKathy | November 26, 2007 2:08 AM
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See? This is exactly why I live in New York City. It's safe. Bad things only happen out in the wild.

But, seriously, all kidding aside ... How sad for everyone involved in this tragedy. It will be interesting to see what details come out as this story develops.

Posted by funkybrownchick | November 26, 2007 5:43 AM
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Unless you can honestly say that you have never ever even once accidentally driven your truck away without realizing you had an ax-wielding maniac tied to your bumper, then you probably are in no position to be critical.

Posted by elenchos | November 26, 2007 7:34 AM
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Aw, he threatened hunters with an axe, I feel so bad for that young life lost... :barf:

Posted by The CHZA | November 26, 2007 7:37 AM
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@2: According to a better written story, the dead motherfucker is the one who was making threats.

Posted by Christopher | November 26, 2007 7:47 AM
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Thanks to idiots like PETA and a lot of other fringe anti-hunting groups, it's now illegal in most states for someone to disrupt a hunt. Don't know Washington law on that subject, but if that's the case, the guy got what he deserved. Hell, you'd have to be pretty damned crazy to take on a bunch of guys with guns using only an axe in the first place. Sounds like a recipe for a REALLY bad day.

Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty | November 26, 2007 7:53 AM
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According to the report on the news last night, Sturman-Camyn was partying with everyone, and got belligerent. I hadn't heard about the axe, but he did threaten various people (cut to various friends of the deceased saying how he was really into fighting). Sinn then somehow overpowered him, tied him to the truck and yelled at the 17 year old to drive out of there as fast as he could.

I really don't know how bad I feel about a guy threatening people with an axe getting killed - although that's a nasty way to do it - but Sinn should certainly be responsible for causing someone else to unknowingly do the deed.

Posted by genevieve | November 26, 2007 8:31 AM
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I blame society.

And the Coen brothers.

Posted by RonK, Seattle | November 26, 2007 8:33 AM
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@11

That's the funniest fucking thing I've read all week.

Posted by Judah | November 26, 2007 8:48 AM
18

yahoos eating their own. darwin in action.

PETA had shit to do with this, @ 14.

Posted by max solomon | November 26, 2007 9:01 AM
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Getting killed is an occupational hazard of threatening to murder people with an axe.

Posted by Voltron | November 26, 2007 9:12 AM
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"Well, let's see. I checked the tires, I checked the oil, I checked the brake fluid, I topped off the oil, I adjusted my mirrors, I cleaned my back window, and I made sure I had enough gas. The only thing I forgot to check was whether there was someone tied to my back end. Gotta be careful about those little details before you start on long trips."

Posted by Greg | November 26, 2007 9:15 AM
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It's like the next-gen horror movie. I mean, really, you couldn't write a better plot...

Posted by Kat | November 26, 2007 9:15 AM
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First, all of them were hunters at the same camp. The victim was not anti-hunting.

Second, there is a difference between threatening to use an ax on somebody and actually picking up an ax and making that threat--the reports are unclear on this issue.

Third, the reports the victim was dragged to death are premature--those comments were allegedly made by somebody in the local Sheriff's Office but there is nothing in the report saying that a definitive autopsy had been performed and the cause of death identified.

Sheesh, people, give it some time to get out the facts.

Posted by Bob | November 26, 2007 10:15 AM
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First, all of them were hunters at the same camp. The victim was not anti-hunting.

Second, there is a difference between threatening to use an ax on somebody and actually picking up an ax and making that threat--the reports are unclear on this issue.

Third, the reports the victim was dragged to death are premature--those comments were allegedly made by somebody in the local Sheriff's Office but there is nothing in the report saying that a definitive autopsy had been performed and the cause of death identified.

Sheesh, people, give it some time to get out the facts.

Posted by Anonymous | November 26, 2007 10:17 AM
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Mama's don't let your babies grow up to PETAns. Don't let 'em wield axes or get tied to old trucks. Let 'em be doctors and lawyers and such.


I know this is not accurate given some of the later comments, but it made me laugh.

Posted by Jim | November 26, 2007 10:37 AM
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And I'm going to accept the murderer's assertion that he threatened them with an axe at face value?

Right-O!

Posted by NapoleonXIV | November 26, 2007 12:06 PM
26

Does Amanda Knox have an alibi?

Posted by kid icarus | November 26, 2007 12:22 PM
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How the hell do you not notice you're dragging a body? Wouldn't, oh, I dunno, the screams sort of tip you off? Or the thumping? Hell, I don't even like driving when I have a stick stuck in the tread of one of my tires, I can only imagine how annoying it'd be dragging a body.

Posted by Geni | November 26, 2007 1:16 PM
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Well, when you're fleeing in terror from someone who's been subdued, trussed up, and firmly tied to the bumper of your pickup truck, you don't think of these things.

Posted by NapoleonXIV | November 26, 2007 1:29 PM
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Nov. 15,, the state of washington appealed the dismissal of charges against Jerid (not from subway) in this case. from the spokesman-review:

•Whitman County Superior Court Judge David Frazier dismissed felony burglary charges May 19 against WSU students Jacob Sterling Houvener and Jerid Sturman-Camyn. Frazier said the students had a "reasonable expectation of privacy in the corridor/hallway" of their dorms, and they had not waived it when Officer Matthew Kuhrt entered their hallway in February. Kuhrt was investigating a burglary that occurred on another floor in the same dorm tower, court records say. Defense attorneys argued he exceeded his authority when walking the other floors in the dorm. The case is under appeal.

Posted by jerid had a reasonable expectation of privacy in his dorm room | November 26, 2007 1:49 PM
30

No doubt this will inspire a teen horror flick next fall. Four miles, *shudders*, I feel for anyone that had to witness or deal with the aftermath.

Posted by Dave | November 26, 2007 6:27 PM
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@6

The stiffening of your penis is of no consequence!

Posted by Mr. Poe | November 26, 2007 7:26 PM
32

I gotta wonder if Roid Rage was a factor here? Seems the dead man was "out of control" and since he was into the Ultimate Fighting thing...ya gotta wonder if steroids "amped" him up. That aspect of wrestling is pretty notorious. He had the teenagers in camp (three of them) so freaked out that at least two of them were hiding in the woods at some point. Freak show apparently!
The only ones that were intoxicated were the dragging victim and his Dad.
His was the only Dad that was allowing his son to drink, they were both highly intoxicated on hard liquor and beer. The others were not. I'd hate to carry the guilt the "victims" Dad should have for his cuplability.
They were fighting and the dad was antagonizing his son.
Sad tragic deal.

Posted by Hmm? | November 28, 2007 1:05 PM
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Your main problem is this: Most, if not all of you, have allowed spotty reporting on initial disclosures to cloud your judgment.

Most responsibile, informed adults who know something about how the media works and understand it's better to hold the tongue until investigations are complete.

The risk of not doing so is often to put one's foot into one's mouth.

Posted by Bob Zornes | December 2, 2007 7:30 AM

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