dairy-free cheese? really...
Gross.
People should not mess with things. Dairy-free cheese just seems wrong. Actually, most manufactured vegan foods seem wrong
Dairy free cheese is heinous and wrong. Thanks but no thanks. I do have principles to uphold afterall.
Damn it! I am stuck at work in the U-District.
DAMN IT!!!
Oh, and screw you all - vegan cheese is heinous and wrong, but the dairy industry? Totally peachy keen. OK.
I'm pretty open minded when it comes to vegetarian and vegan foods. A lot of it tastes really good. But vegan cheese tastes like plastic. I think any vegan who thinks it tastes good has forgotten what real cheese tastes like.
Oh, I'm not saying it tastes good - most of it doesn't (I think the Vegan Gourmet stuff is decent, though it's not going to fool anyone into thinking it's cheese). But these people are deluded if they think it's any more wrong than what they eat on a daily basis.
People should not mess with things.
Yeah, people should eat natural food. You just squeeze a cow's teat and mozzarella cheese comes out, right?
@8
Well, I am pretty sure that any fresh mozzarella is a lot more natural than any vegan cheese on the market. All it needs is milk and little bit of effort not a bunch of chemicals...
I'm not vegan, but I love pizza with soy cheese. Just be careful when it's hot, because a soy cheese burn on the roof of your mouth is worse than one with real cheese.
But, where the hell is this place, anyway? What are the cross streets, what's it near? If it's on Pine, not East Pine, isn't that Downtown?
Real mozzarella comes from water buffaloes, not cows. Most Americans have never tasted it.
The ethics of dairy has nothing to do with the grossness of highly-processed vegan food that imitates non-vegan food.
i cant believe the argument that vegan cheese tastes better because cows arent being harmed in the making of it.
vegan cheese tastes wrong even if the process is right.
Have to agree with Levislade - why can't you Beltway Boys on the Hill think about us poor folks north of the ship canal once in a while?
I went to a vegan restaurant once and ordered a vegan pizza. It was a piece of round pita bread with hummus and olives on it. That would be considered a bland appetizer at most trendy restaurants.
In honor of World Vegan Day, I shall endeavor to eat the flesh of as many different kinds of animals as possible.
Hm, I wonder if the Korthause will make me a beef-chicken-pork-buffalo-aligator-ostritch-llama burger with a side of prawns?
A lot of those pizzas at the store that are really cheap aren't made with real cheese. Its some weird hydrogenated oil thing.
(water, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, casein, potato starch, vital wheat gluten, sodium aluminum phosphate, salt, potassium chloride, citric acid, potassium sorbate, sodium phosphate, sodium citrate, titanium dioxide [to make it all look like mozzarella], maltodextrin, magnesium oxide, zinc oxide, vitamin a palmitate, riboflavin, vitamin b12)
SO I guess technically Totinos is vegan soy cheese pizza. It tastes kind of good.
@12 - I don't see anyone here making that argument. I was responding to quotes such as:
"People should not mess with things. Dairy-free cheese just seems wrong."
"Dairy free cheese is heinous and wrong. Thanks but no thanks. I do have principles to uphold afterall."
I am not saying vegan cheese "tastes better" because it's more ethical. I actually prefer cheeseless pizza to vegan cheese pizza myself. I am merely arguing that the word "wrong" would be better used to describe what goes on every day to give you that cheese you love so much.
@16,
I'm pretty sure that casein is a dairy by-product.
totinos is crap. and their ads are annoying. I want to strangle that loudmouth fucking kid that delcares his love for totinos. That kinda kid is what makes you get caught pulling a heist and he needs to get cut.
when they say wrong they mean it tastes wrong. tastes wrong. tastes wrong. i repeated it for your benefit.
wow, i can't believe how stupid ya'lls are. sorry, SOME of ya'lls.
talk of anything "vegan" gets you all riled up, don't it? stick a carcass in your piehole and take a nap already.
@21
We are not the stupid ones. The stupid people are the vegans who think they are better than everyone else by eating a bunch of chmically processed food that is made to look and taste like real food. Nothing fake like that can ever taste as good as the real thing.
@20 . . . so now you're psychic? You know that JD and Mrs. Y meant "tastes wrong" even though they said nothing about taste? OK, you win.
Im not psychic, I just understand people better. and food.
and words for that matter. fuck it, you're such an idiot that you would think the first thing that matters when it comes to food is the ethics of creating it. Im sure they are people who thinks of taste when food is mentioned, right?
Oh, and fuck your false dichotomy of vegan bad, dairy industry good. You're such a fucking tool to believe that anyone is ignorant of the facts of the dairy industry. We know what goes on, we just think taste is more important than a dumb animal whose sole purpose is to give us food.
No, no, no. You've got it all wrong. We think we're better because we eat real food—fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and beans—and you guys eat garbage that causes cancer.
Hey, man. Slavery feels pretty good too. Don't knock it till you've tried it.
footface, are you saying people eat dairy products and meat instead of fruit, veggies, and legumes? cause that's bullshit. anyone that enjoys food doesnt limit themselves to an atkins like regimen or because they limit themselves to things that arent meat and dairy.
Only in America would anyone turn their nose up at free food. Sheesh.
I'm saying that meat-eaters die early from cancer (and diabetes) (etc.).
Is that because of the crap they eat? Or is it because of all the real food they don't eat?
Who cares?
do they teach vegans how to create false analogies?
@10 It's right next to the Baltic Room, east of Boren, in the last block of Pine before it turns into East Pine. If you click the link in the post you'll see a map.
"We think we're better because we eat real food—fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and beans"
Hey, great, if that's what you really do. So do I. I try to make as much of the food I eat "real" in that sense as possible. Meat and dairy can be real food, too.
But most vegans I've come across DON'T eat real food; they eat highly-processed junk that just doesn't have animal products in it. It's still junk. Fake meat is junk; so is fake cheese.
Go ahead and eat real food -- congratulations. But don't try to pass off industrial junk food as "real".
eating meat causes diabetes? do you even know what diabetes is?
living longer? if you have an extra 5-10 years of eating food that tastes bad, then i'd rather die earlier (at like 80 or 85) and eat salami, fried chicken with mashed potatoes and gravy, lasagna, every kind of cheese known to man, and plenty of others.
being vegan or vegetarian might have you live longer but at what cost to your enjoyment of food and life? that isnt to say that enjoying food and life requires you to be a glutton, but things like veal, lamb, faux gras, bacon are delicious and can be eaten with other things and still allow a healthy lifestyle.
It boggles my mind that people think eating real cheese is "unnatural". I suppose beer is "unnatural" too? What about cured meats? Preserved fruits? These are basic products that people have sustained themselves on for thousands of years! Everything we eat was once alive. It's called human ingenuity. Finding ways to keep your "raw" foodstuffs from spoiling when you have to survive on them in the winter months.
Gah! This is just so frustrating. This was a perfectly nice post about free food, but because it had the word "vegan" in it, a bunch of people had to totally flip out for no good reason. Screw you all.
juliano needs to do his homework. "dairy-free" cheese is NOT VEGAN. it contains casein, which is a milk protein, rendering any vegan sanctimony here completley bogus.
@32 - thank you. I clicked the link and saw the listing but not the map. [/lazy]
@29 - word.
thats right levislade, take your veganism and leave.
Bellevue Ave said:
living longer? if you have an extra 5-10 years of eating food that tastes bad, then i'd rather die earlier (at like 80 or 85) and eat salami, fried chicken with mashed potatoes and gravy, lasagna, every kind of cheese known to man, and plenty of others.
If this is your everyday diet, you're not living to see 80-85.
the beauty of being able to eat meat is that you can not only enjoy the foods you like, such as a delicious goat cheese with some kind of cured italian meat, but also you can cherry pick the best vegetarian and vegan meals and make them better WITH meat.
"If this is your everyday diet, you're not living to see 80-85"
BS, gramps lived off pork rinds and sausage links and he lived to be 91.
Gramps is the exception, not the rule.
why would that be my every day diet? that's my every hour diet!
I've had enough. Time to suck on a tailpipe.
i'm much more baffled by meat eaters' sanctimony than vegetarian/vegans. why so much hostility?
the assumption seems to be that people who don't eat meat secretly wish they did, but don't for the sole reason that they can flaunt their vegetarianism like a badge of honor. some people actually don't eat meat because it grosses them the fuck out - you know, the same reason that you don't like "vegan" cheese.
I understand that meat and dairy products grosses people out, but that is so seldom a reason offered as to why people do it. sure, the process of meatpacking etc might be the impetus for it, but very rarely is that a natural instinct. even then, how many people had a natural dislike of ice cream going up? I think most of the ick factor is learned and psychological.
I dont think vegans or vegetarians wish they ate taboo foods. I think they wish more people were like them so they would have more opportunities to enjoy the lifestyle they live.
that may be the case for some vegetarians, although i've never actually met any of them. being vegetarian myself, i encounter more meat eater sanctimony than you could ever imagine, and i just don't get it.
let me go on record as the first vegetarian to tell you - i don't eat meat because i find it utterly vulgar and have for most of my life. all of the vegetarians i know [maybe 5 or 6] don't eat meat for the exact same reason. and none of us give a fuck what you eat.
It boggles my mind that people think eating real cheese is "unnatural".
Evolutionarily speaking, it is unnatural.
Believe it or not, spinach is a great cheese substitute on pizza. Has a similar texture.
Most of the vegetarians I know admit to missing some kind of meat in their diet. Bacon usually ranks at #1. I think people who don't eat meat because they find it disgusting have been brainwashed into thinking like that.
I think everyone should stop being so goddamned concerned with what other people eat (or don't eat). How is someone giving away free vegan pizza such an issue except to those of us who wish we could go get some?
Slog-meisters: Is there any way you could do a post about a vegan pitbull owner who rides his bike on the viaduct? That would make for one hell of a comment thread.
Now, if you want some good hummus on pita bread, try the Essential Bakery entree - now that's a tasty lunch!
And it's organic, too.
Real mozzarella comes from water buffaloes, not cows. Most Americans have never tasted it.
SUCK ON MY DONG PLEASE
50 - i know people have a tendency to project their own feelings on others, but that is just plain retarded. is it really that difficult to grasp that people might not like a type of food you like?
I think mushrooms are disgusting but a lot of people--especially vegetarians--love them. Maybe mushrooms are good but as long as I tell myself they're disgusting, I won't eat them. I haven't liked them since I was a little kid. Maybe I just need to grow up.
On a more important note, I annoys me when groups try to officially claim a day as their own. They're all taken, people. You want a day, go talk to the people occupying the day you want.
Oh, and vegan product industry: good luck wrestling All Souls Day out of its owner's hands. In a small way, it's sort of ironic you'd choose November 1st.
Vegan Cheese != Cheese. Lets call it Chezz, shall we? or may just KraP!
"i don't eat meat because i find it utterly vulgar". Now that's sanctimony!
Just got back from Vietnamese Pho restaurant in Ballard, where, amazingly, they serve Vietnamese Pho. Had three kinds of meat in there, all delicious. No tripe tho, too chewy. Yes, ready for a nap. And yes, quite happy with that feeling of sloth.
Nothing's more fun than standing in line at PCC in Fremont and watching all the Bone-Sacks line up with their small bag of leafy greens, and struggle to lift the spare change up to hand to the checker.
Hooray for Meat! And Cheese! When's Meat-smothered-in-Cheese Day? Everyday!!!
Levislade, bless your heart. My feelings exactly.
It's just some free pizza, clowns. Everybody eat it or don't.
But god help me, I'm just going to add that lots of people are sensitive to dairy, and they miss having a cheese-esque experience. I'm going to go ahead and advocate for these people to get to eat their free vegan pizza without people making barfy faces near them.
The map is wrong. There's no pizza place anywhere around where the map says.
I feel sorry for people who think that that stuff is anything remotely like a "cheese-esque experience". I guess it is, in the same sense that matted dog hair tastes like arugula.
People who don't eat meat for ethical reasons I can respect. People who won't eat meat but subsist entirely on frozen "organic" and "vegan" packages, and vegan gunk that is pretending to be meat are morons.
"the assumption seems to be that people who don't eat meat secretly wish they did". And why do you think that is? Because you're not eating actual vegetables and grains, you're eating the fucking Morningside Farms vomit formed into "meat" patties or "bacon" strips or "non-dairy" cheese.
@60: From the look of you in that gold unitard, Fnarf, you can use a lot more fruits and grains
(see how fun it is to be hurtfully insulting!?)
It's just more of me to love, Lake. and that's not hurtful at all. You CAN'T hurt me -- I'm wearing a wrestler's cup.
Now excuse me while I suck down this whole stick of butter.
Explain yourself, shitbrain. :^D
How is making and eating cheese unnatural in the context of evolution? We humans have evolved into an inventive tool-using species. We have interrupted and altered the evolution of many plant and animal species over time to serve our needs accordingly. Part of that evolution has entailed possessing the ability to modify animal *and* plant byproducts into sustenance. Otherwise, we would just be sitting around eating raw berries and the occasional wildebeest.
meant for #49, natch.
evolutionary speaking...who cares? anything technoligcal that enhances our lives isnt natural but I dont see people using the unnaturalness of refrigiration or gas ovens as to reasons we shouldnt use them
I just ate some. It was fine, though doesn't melt right. At all. Also - Sir Juilano is offering FREE SLICES till 11:30 tonight, not 3:30
Soy cheese is to regular cheese what matted dog hair is to arugula...oh, totally. That analogy hasn't blown out of control at all. That baby is watertight!
I happen to be someone who doesn't eat meat for ethical reasons, myself. (Lacto-ovo vegetarian, though, so I spring for real cheese.) I'm a fifth-generation vegetarian, actually, so this issue goes deep in my family. I grew up vegetarian long before it was cool (back in the 1800's!!)(is what I realize I made that sound like), and I know I got tired of people making YOURfoodisWEIRD comments.
I ate meat for a good long while there as an adult, and I got to like cheeseburgers and chicken and their buddies. Now that I've gone back to vegetarianism, I don't make meat substitutes the cornerstone of my diet, but they hit the spot occasionally.
I don't rub my diet in anyone's face - I really don't care what anyone else eats. It's a personal decision. I just think it's sort of uncool to rag on someone else's lunch.
You all need therapy, including me for reading this fucking thread.
AMAZING. The Pizza slice that Juliano just served me was one of the best crispy cheesy pizza slices I've had in a long time. I dont understand how people can sit here and bicker about non dairy cheese, dont knock it untill youve tried it. I didnt even realize it wasnt real cheese untill he told me.
The meaning of vegan is not about the food but the treatment of the animals. The right for the animals today, we can survive with out killing the animals. Vegan day is non violence of animals day.
I give these vegan pizza A++
Can't we live in a world without violence and death?? Animals feel just as humans do and it is unecessary to kill them in order for our survival, so why do we still do it? We wouldn't kill a fellow-human so why would we kill an animal??
#70: that just made me want to start eating meat again.
Killing and putting animals through unnatural processes to obtain food only results in an unnatural and unnecessary human diet.
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