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Thursday, November 1, 2007

Free Slices

posted by on November 1 at 9:36 AM

Juliano’s on Pine is celebrating world vegan day today by offering free slices of dairy-free-cheese pizza between 11 am and 3:30 pm. Juliano’s vegan slices are great, and Juliano is quite a character. Tell him The Stranger sent you. Then come back and tell us what you think of his pizza in our reader-review spiked dining guide.

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dairy-free cheese? really...

Posted by jameyb | November 1, 2007 9:51 AM
2

Gross.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | November 1, 2007 9:55 AM
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People should not mess with things. Dairy-free cheese just seems wrong. Actually, most manufactured vegan foods seem wrong

Posted by JD | November 1, 2007 9:56 AM
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Dairy free cheese is heinous and wrong. Thanks but no thanks. I do have principles to uphold afterall.

Posted by Mrs. Y | November 1, 2007 10:01 AM
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Damn it! I am stuck at work in the U-District.

DAMN IT!!!

Oh, and screw you all - vegan cheese is heinous and wrong, but the dairy industry? Totally peachy keen. OK.

http://www.unhappycows.com/dairycows.asp

Posted by Levislade | November 1, 2007 10:13 AM
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I'm pretty open minded when it comes to vegetarian and vegan foods. A lot of it tastes really good. But vegan cheese tastes like plastic. I think any vegan who thinks it tastes good has forgotten what real cheese tastes like.

Posted by 90% Vegetarian | November 1, 2007 10:19 AM
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Oh, I'm not saying it tastes good - most of it doesn't (I think the Vegan Gourmet stuff is decent, though it's not going to fool anyone into thinking it's cheese). But these people are deluded if they think it's any more wrong than what they eat on a daily basis.

Posted by Levislade | November 1, 2007 10:22 AM
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People should not mess with things.

Yeah, people should eat natural food. You just squeeze a cow's teat and mozzarella cheese comes out, right?

Posted by jamier | November 1, 2007 10:25 AM
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@8
Well, I am pretty sure that any fresh mozzarella is a lot more natural than any vegan cheese on the market. All it needs is milk and little bit of effort not a bunch of chemicals...

Posted by JD | November 1, 2007 10:31 AM
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I'm not vegan, but I love pizza with soy cheese. Just be careful when it's hot, because a soy cheese burn on the roof of your mouth is worse than one with real cheese.

But, where the hell is this place, anyway? What are the cross streets, what's it near? If it's on Pine, not East Pine, isn't that Downtown?

Posted by genevieve | November 1, 2007 10:33 AM
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Real mozzarella comes from water buffaloes, not cows. Most Americans have never tasted it.

The ethics of dairy has nothing to do with the grossness of highly-processed vegan food that imitates non-vegan food.

Posted by Fnarf | November 1, 2007 10:34 AM
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i cant believe the argument that vegan cheese tastes better because cows arent being harmed in the making of it.

vegan cheese tastes wrong even if the process is right.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | November 1, 2007 10:35 AM
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Have to agree with Levislade - why can't you Beltway Boys on the Hill think about us poor folks north of the ship canal once in a while?

Posted by Will in Seattle | November 1, 2007 10:42 AM
14

I went to a vegan restaurant once and ordered a vegan pizza. It was a piece of round pita bread with hummus and olives on it. That would be considered a bland appetizer at most trendy restaurants.

Posted by Samson | November 1, 2007 10:43 AM
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In honor of World Vegan Day, I shall endeavor to eat the flesh of as many different kinds of animals as possible.

Hm, I wonder if the Korthause will make me a beef-chicken-pork-buffalo-aligator-ostritch-llama burger with a side of prawns?

Posted by COMTE | November 1, 2007 10:43 AM
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A lot of those pizzas at the store that are really cheap aren't made with real cheese. Its some weird hydrogenated oil thing.

(water, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, casein, potato starch, vital wheat gluten, sodium aluminum phosphate, salt, potassium chloride, citric acid, potassium sorbate, sodium phosphate, sodium citrate, titanium dioxide [to make it all look like mozzarella], maltodextrin, magnesium oxide, zinc oxide, vitamin a palmitate, riboflavin, vitamin b12)

SO I guess technically Totinos is vegan soy cheese pizza. It tastes kind of good.

Posted by diana | November 1, 2007 10:45 AM
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@12 - I don't see anyone here making that argument. I was responding to quotes such as:

"People should not mess with things. Dairy-free cheese just seems wrong."

"Dairy free cheese is heinous and wrong. Thanks but no thanks. I do have principles to uphold afterall."

I am not saying vegan cheese "tastes better" because it's more ethical. I actually prefer cheeseless pizza to vegan cheese pizza myself. I am merely arguing that the word "wrong" would be better used to describe what goes on every day to give you that cheese you love so much.

Posted by Levislade | November 1, 2007 10:48 AM
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@16,

I'm pretty sure that casein is a dairy by-product.

Posted by keshmeshi | November 1, 2007 10:48 AM
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totinos is crap. and their ads are annoying. I want to strangle that loudmouth fucking kid that delcares his love for totinos. That kinda kid is what makes you get caught pulling a heist and he needs to get cut.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | November 1, 2007 10:48 AM
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when they say wrong they mean it tastes wrong. tastes wrong. tastes wrong. i repeated it for your benefit.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | November 1, 2007 10:50 AM
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wow, i can't believe how stupid ya'lls are. sorry, SOME of ya'lls.
talk of anything "vegan" gets you all riled up, don't it? stick a carcass in your piehole and take a nap already.

Posted by britbrit | November 1, 2007 10:53 AM
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@21
We are not the stupid ones. The stupid people are the vegans who think they are better than everyone else by eating a bunch of chmically processed food that is made to look and taste like real food. Nothing fake like that can ever taste as good as the real thing.

Posted by JD | November 1, 2007 11:00 AM
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@20 . . . so now you're psychic? You know that JD and Mrs. Y meant "tastes wrong" even though they said nothing about taste? OK, you win.

Posted by Levislade | November 1, 2007 11:02 AM
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Im not psychic, I just understand people better. and food.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | November 1, 2007 11:07 AM
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and words for that matter. fuck it, you're such an idiot that you would think the first thing that matters when it comes to food is the ethics of creating it. Im sure they are people who thinks of taste when food is mentioned, right?

Oh, and fuck your false dichotomy of vegan bad, dairy industry good. You're such a fucking tool to believe that anyone is ignorant of the facts of the dairy industry. We know what goes on, we just think taste is more important than a dumb animal whose sole purpose is to give us food.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | November 1, 2007 11:10 AM
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No, no, no. You've got it all wrong. We think we're better because we eat real food—fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and beans—and you guys eat garbage that causes cancer.

Posted by FootFace | November 1, 2007 11:12 AM
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Hey, man. Slavery feels pretty good too. Don't knock it till you've tried it.

Posted by FootFace | November 1, 2007 11:13 AM
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footface, are you saying people eat dairy products and meat instead of fruit, veggies, and legumes? cause that's bullshit. anyone that enjoys food doesnt limit themselves to an atkins like regimen or because they limit themselves to things that arent meat and dairy.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | November 1, 2007 11:14 AM
29

Only in America would anyone turn their nose up at free food. Sheesh.

Posted by orangekrush | November 1, 2007 11:14 AM
30

I'm saying that meat-eaters die early from cancer (and diabetes) (etc.).

Is that because of the crap they eat? Or is it because of all the real food they don't eat?

Who cares?

Posted by FootFace | November 1, 2007 11:18 AM
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do they teach vegans how to create false analogies?

Posted by Bellevue Ave | November 1, 2007 11:23 AM
32

@10 It's right next to the Baltic Room, east of Boren, in the last block of Pine before it turns into East Pine. If you click the link in the post you'll see a map.

Posted by Amy Kate Horn | November 1, 2007 11:26 AM
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"We think we're better because we eat real food—fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and beans"

Hey, great, if that's what you really do. So do I. I try to make as much of the food I eat "real" in that sense as possible. Meat and dairy can be real food, too.

But most vegans I've come across DON'T eat real food; they eat highly-processed junk that just doesn't have animal products in it. It's still junk. Fake meat is junk; so is fake cheese.

Go ahead and eat real food -- congratulations. But don't try to pass off industrial junk food as "real".

Posted by Fnarf | November 1, 2007 11:28 AM
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eating meat causes diabetes? do you even know what diabetes is?

living longer? if you have an extra 5-10 years of eating food that tastes bad, then i'd rather die earlier (at like 80 or 85) and eat salami, fried chicken with mashed potatoes and gravy, lasagna, every kind of cheese known to man, and plenty of others.

being vegan or vegetarian might have you live longer but at what cost to your enjoyment of food and life? that isnt to say that enjoying food and life requires you to be a glutton, but things like veal, lamb, faux gras, bacon are delicious and can be eaten with other things and still allow a healthy lifestyle.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | November 1, 2007 11:29 AM
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It boggles my mind that people think eating real cheese is "unnatural". I suppose beer is "unnatural" too? What about cured meats? Preserved fruits? These are basic products that people have sustained themselves on for thousands of years! Everything we eat was once alive. It's called human ingenuity. Finding ways to keep your "raw" foodstuffs from spoiling when you have to survive on them in the winter months.

Posted by laterite | November 1, 2007 11:35 AM
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Gah! This is just so frustrating. This was a perfectly nice post about free food, but because it had the word "vegan" in it, a bunch of people had to totally flip out for no good reason. Screw you all.

Posted by Levislade | November 1, 2007 11:37 AM
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juliano needs to do his homework. "dairy-free" cheese is NOT VEGAN. it contains casein, which is a milk protein, rendering any vegan sanctimony here completley bogus.

Posted by brandon | November 1, 2007 11:38 AM
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@32 - thank you. I clicked the link and saw the listing but not the map. [/lazy]

@29 - word.

Posted by genevieve | November 1, 2007 11:39 AM
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thats right levislade, take your veganism and leave.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | November 1, 2007 11:43 AM
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Bellevue Ave said:

living longer? if you have an extra 5-10 years of eating food that tastes bad, then i'd rather die earlier (at like 80 or 85) and eat salami, fried chicken with mashed potatoes and gravy, lasagna, every kind of cheese known to man, and plenty of others.

If this is your everyday diet, you're not living to see 80-85.

Posted by Matt from Denver | November 1, 2007 11:46 AM
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the beauty of being able to eat meat is that you can not only enjoy the foods you like, such as a delicious goat cheese with some kind of cured italian meat, but also you can cherry pick the best vegetarian and vegan meals and make them better WITH meat.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | November 1, 2007 11:49 AM
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"If this is your everyday diet, you're not living to see 80-85"

BS, gramps lived off pork rinds and sausage links and he lived to be 91.

Posted by Samson | November 1, 2007 11:50 AM
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Gramps is the exception, not the rule.

Posted by Matt from Denver | November 1, 2007 11:51 AM
44

why would that be my every day diet? that's my every hour diet!

Posted by Bellevue Ave | November 1, 2007 11:51 AM
45

I've had enough. Time to suck on a tailpipe.

Posted by DaiBando | November 1, 2007 11:54 AM
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i'm much more baffled by meat eaters' sanctimony than vegetarian/vegans. why so much hostility?

the assumption seems to be that people who don't eat meat secretly wish they did, but don't for the sole reason that they can flaunt their vegetarianism like a badge of honor. some people actually don't eat meat because it grosses them the fuck out - you know, the same reason that you don't like "vegan" cheese.

Posted by brandon | November 1, 2007 11:58 AM
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I understand that meat and dairy products grosses people out, but that is so seldom a reason offered as to why people do it. sure, the process of meatpacking etc might be the impetus for it, but very rarely is that a natural instinct. even then, how many people had a natural dislike of ice cream going up? I think most of the ick factor is learned and psychological.

I dont think vegans or vegetarians wish they ate taboo foods. I think they wish more people were like them so they would have more opportunities to enjoy the lifestyle they live.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | November 1, 2007 12:03 PM
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that may be the case for some vegetarians, although i've never actually met any of them. being vegetarian myself, i encounter more meat eater sanctimony than you could ever imagine, and i just don't get it.

let me go on record as the first vegetarian to tell you - i don't eat meat because i find it utterly vulgar and have for most of my life. all of the vegetarians i know [maybe 5 or 6] don't eat meat for the exact same reason. and none of us give a fuck what you eat.

Posted by brandon | November 1, 2007 12:11 PM
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It boggles my mind that people think eating real cheese is "unnatural".

Evolutionarily speaking, it is unnatural.


Believe it or not, spinach is a great cheese substitute on pizza. Has a similar texture.

Posted by shitbrain | November 1, 2007 12:23 PM
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Most of the vegetarians I know admit to missing some kind of meat in their diet. Bacon usually ranks at #1. I think people who don't eat meat because they find it disgusting have been brainwashed into thinking like that.

Posted by 90% Vegetarian | November 1, 2007 12:23 PM
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I think everyone should stop being so goddamned concerned with what other people eat (or don't eat). How is someone giving away free vegan pizza such an issue except to those of us who wish we could go get some?

Slog-meisters: Is there any way you could do a post about a vegan pitbull owner who rides his bike on the viaduct? That would make for one hell of a comment thread.

Posted by Levislade | November 1, 2007 12:28 PM
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Now, if you want some good hummus on pita bread, try the Essential Bakery entree - now that's a tasty lunch!

And it's organic, too.

Posted by Will in Seattle | November 1, 2007 12:31 PM
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Real mozzarella comes from water buffaloes, not cows. Most Americans have never tasted it.

SUCK ON MY DONG PLEASE

Posted by sniggles | November 1, 2007 12:31 PM
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50 - i know people have a tendency to project their own feelings on others, but that is just plain retarded. is it really that difficult to grasp that people might not like a type of food you like?

Posted by brandon | November 1, 2007 12:34 PM
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I think mushrooms are disgusting but a lot of people--especially vegetarians--love them. Maybe mushrooms are good but as long as I tell myself they're disgusting, I won't eat them. I haven't liked them since I was a little kid. Maybe I just need to grow up.

Posted by 50 | November 1, 2007 12:42 PM
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On a more important note, I annoys me when groups try to officially claim a day as their own. They're all taken, people. You want a day, go talk to the people occupying the day you want.

Oh, and vegan product industry: good luck wrestling All Souls Day out of its owner's hands. In a small way, it's sort of ironic you'd choose November 1st.

Posted by Dougsf | November 1, 2007 12:56 PM
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Vegan Cheese != Cheese. Lets call it Chezz, shall we? or may just KraP!

"i don't eat meat because i find it utterly vulgar". Now that's sanctimony!

Just got back from Vietnamese Pho restaurant in Ballard, where, amazingly, they serve Vietnamese Pho. Had three kinds of meat in there, all delicious. No tripe tho, too chewy. Yes, ready for a nap. And yes, quite happy with that feeling of sloth.

Nothing's more fun than standing in line at PCC in Fremont and watching all the Bone-Sacks line up with their small bag of leafy greens, and struggle to lift the spare change up to hand to the checker.

Hooray for Meat! And Cheese! When's Meat-smothered-in-Cheese Day? Everyday!!!

Posted by wbrproductions | November 1, 2007 1:22 PM
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Levislade, bless your heart. My feelings exactly.

It's just some free pizza, clowns. Everybody eat it or don't.

But god help me, I'm just going to add that lots of people are sensitive to dairy, and they miss having a cheese-esque experience. I'm going to go ahead and advocate for these people to get to eat their free vegan pizza without people making barfy faces near them.

Posted by Tina | November 1, 2007 1:34 PM
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The map is wrong. There's no pizza place anywhere around where the map says.

Posted by Lost | November 1, 2007 1:37 PM
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I feel sorry for people who think that that stuff is anything remotely like a "cheese-esque experience". I guess it is, in the same sense that matted dog hair tastes like arugula.

People who don't eat meat for ethical reasons I can respect. People who won't eat meat but subsist entirely on frozen "organic" and "vegan" packages, and vegan gunk that is pretending to be meat are morons.

"the assumption seems to be that people who don't eat meat secretly wish they did". And why do you think that is? Because you're not eating actual vegetables and grains, you're eating the fucking Morningside Farms vomit formed into "meat" patties or "bacon" strips or "non-dairy" cheese.

Posted by Fnarf | November 1, 2007 1:49 PM
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@60: From the look of you in that gold unitard, Fnarf, you can use a lot more fruits and grains


(see how fun it is to be hurtfully insulting!?)

Posted by Lake | November 1, 2007 2:16 PM
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It's just more of me to love, Lake. and that's not hurtful at all. You CAN'T hurt me -- I'm wearing a wrestler's cup.

Now excuse me while I suck down this whole stick of butter.

Posted by Fnarf | November 1, 2007 3:59 PM
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Explain yourself, shitbrain. :^D


How is making and eating cheese unnatural in the context of evolution? We humans have evolved into an inventive tool-using species. We have interrupted and altered the evolution of many plant and animal species over time to serve our needs accordingly. Part of that evolution has entailed possessing the ability to modify animal *and* plant byproducts into sustenance. Otherwise, we would just be sitting around eating raw berries and the occasional wildebeest.

Posted by laterite | November 1, 2007 4:42 PM
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meant for #49, natch.

Posted by laterite | November 1, 2007 4:44 PM
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evolutionary speaking...who cares? anything technoligcal that enhances our lives isnt natural but I dont see people using the unnaturalness of refrigiration or gas ovens as to reasons we shouldnt use them

Posted by Bellevue Ave | November 1, 2007 4:57 PM
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I just ate some. It was fine, though doesn't melt right. At all. Also - Sir Juilano is offering FREE SLICES till 11:30 tonight, not 3:30

Posted by KELLY O | November 1, 2007 5:25 PM
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Soy cheese is to regular cheese what matted dog hair is to arugula...oh, totally. That analogy hasn't blown out of control at all. That baby is watertight!

I happen to be someone who doesn't eat meat for ethical reasons, myself. (Lacto-ovo vegetarian, though, so I spring for real cheese.) I'm a fifth-generation vegetarian, actually, so this issue goes deep in my family. I grew up vegetarian long before it was cool (back in the 1800's!!)(is what I realize I made that sound like), and I know I got tired of people making YOURfoodisWEIRD comments.
I ate meat for a good long while there as an adult, and I got to like cheeseburgers and chicken and their buddies. Now that I've gone back to vegetarianism, I don't make meat substitutes the cornerstone of my diet, but they hit the spot occasionally.

I don't rub my diet in anyone's face - I really don't care what anyone else eats. It's a personal decision. I just think it's sort of uncool to rag on someone else's lunch.

Posted by Tina | November 1, 2007 7:37 PM
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You all need therapy, including me for reading this fucking thread.

Posted by Jude Fawley | November 1, 2007 8:26 PM
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AMAZING. The Pizza slice that Juliano just served me was one of the best crispy cheesy pizza slices I've had in a long time. I dont understand how people can sit here and bicker about non dairy cheese, dont knock it untill youve tried it. I didnt even realize it wasnt real cheese untill he told me.

The meaning of vegan is not about the food but the treatment of the animals. The right for the animals today, we can survive with out killing the animals. Vegan day is non violence of animals day.

I give these vegan pizza A++

Posted by Thomas | November 1, 2007 11:11 PM
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Can't we live in a world without violence and death?? Animals feel just as humans do and it is unecessary to kill them in order for our survival, so why do we still do it? We wouldn't kill a fellow-human so why would we kill an animal??

Posted by LuCy | November 1, 2007 11:17 PM
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#70: that just made me want to start eating meat again.

Posted by pretentious | November 1, 2007 11:25 PM
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Killing and putting animals through unnatural processes to obtain food only results in an unnatural and unnecessary human diet.

Posted by Sally Tommrrow | November 1, 2007 11:36 PM

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