I thought it was a ZZ Top reference.
How the hell was she "forced" to do anything in a live debate format? Couldn't she have stood up and said "Senator Clinton: spit or swallow?" or anything she damn well pleased? Oooh, CNN told her she had to! Oh no!!! What could they possibly do if she asked her own question?
Sure, CNN shouldn't be telling people what to ask, but for crying out loud, people have to submit meekly in order for that to work.
She was just following orders
We are in the midst of a "war on terror", whatever the hell that is, we have no health care, the real estate market is tanking, our dollar is tanking, global warming is fucking the entire planet, our government is swimming in red ink and the deficit is getting worse all the time, Bush is doing everything he can to gut the Constitution, corporations are getting more powerful and unions less powerful and jobs going overseas at an alarming rate, and we are importing toxic toys.
And this ditz thinks it's important to know if a presidential candidate prefers diamonds or pearls?
No wonder we end up with people like Bush in the White House.
On the linked page, I thought her response to the criticism against her was pretty good.
That being said, if she had a problem with the Diamonds v. Pearls thing, she could have just not asked a question at all. But, if it was a hectic environment, CNN people saying do this, this, this!, maybe she wasn't thinking about how people would react to the question and just went with the flow.
SDA, if you read her comments on the linked page, it's clear this girl is no ditz.
That said, it was a weird and sucky way to close the debate. Not that everything has to be so painfully serious all the time (Boxers vs. briefs has made it into the history books, after all), but it was uncomfortably... fluffy. Or something. It felt wrong.
What do you expect when CNN gets their questions written by dirty scabs?
If she wanted to ask a more substantive question, WHY DIDN'T SHE? They weren't moving her lips for her. I'm sorry, Truman Scholar or no, "policy memo" on Yucca Mountain (yawn) or no, she's a ditz.
Are we sure she wasn't asking about Pokemon games?
@8 - Exactly. Or maybe not a ditz, but definitely a coward.
@8 - agreed. It was the last question of the debate - what would they do, exactly? Kick her out?
To be fair, they had already talked about Yucca Mountain. She had time to come up with another substantive question.
I guess you could say that, 8&10. She's all of 15 years old, though. I'm 32, and if I was standing there in front of all those people with bright lights on me and CNN was all, "ASK THE DIAMONDS QUESTION! THE DIAMONDS!", I'm sure I'd ask the stupid question.
I am, however, not a Truman Scholar.
The more worrisome issue to me is that CNN ran a fake debate with fake questions. That's the kind of shit you expect from Fox News or the White House Press Secretary, not CNN. But then, CNN hasn't actually been valuable since 1991 anyway.
@12 -- all the questions had to be pre-approved. Of course, she could have asked a non-pre-approved question or her original question. But, the candidates had already talked about Yucca Mountain, so, whatever, nobody wanted to hear them say more about it.
The people asking questions at these things are tools of the debate hosts, nothing more. CNN is like we want a question about this topic, that topic, etc. and they select someone who asked one of those questions. They wanted a "fun" question to end the debate, and so they said, hey you, ask your "fun" question. If it wasn't her it would have been someone else.
"Didn't Monica get the string of pearls?" she asked, diamond hard.
OK, so she's 15. I wouldn't have been able to speak at all when I was 15. But what she should have done is say "my question about Yucca Mountain has already been asked, and they want me to ask a stupid question about diamonds and pearls, but I don't want to. Do you think the questions should be rigged like this?"
@13 -- totally agree. This woman really wanted to ask her Yucca Mountain question, so she filled out CNN's form or whatever, which asked for a list of both your serious and non-serious questions. CNN picked someone else to ask the Yucca Mountain question (or did Wolf ask it, I forget). So, they were like, ask this stupid question or nothing. There could have been some hectic time pressure as well, who knows.
Where are you getting that she's 15? She's a college student, isn't she?
I don't see what everyone's problem with the questions being "rigged" are. The questions are "rigged" during the moderated portions anyways. If they weren't pre-selected during the audience portion, then we'd have had 7 questions on Yucca Mountain, or random, ridiculous questions/rants (think Pastor Hutch at the Microsoft shareholder meeting).
The whole thing is obviously not a "real" debate anyways, so whatever.
Actually, the question was meant to reveal if Senator Clinton is, in fact, a lesbian, according to a YouTube commenter here who reported: "I'm not 100% sure on this but i think that was a coded way of asking her sexuality. diamonds would mean straight and pearls would mean lesbian."
I thought it was a good coded question planted by her operatives.
You're not the target audience it was intended for.
Pearls means lesbians? I got Mrs. Fnarf some pearls, but I didn't get any lesbians.
she's 15 & she gets to ask a question at a presidential debate?
SHE DOESN'T GET TO VOTE IN 2008.
Making a statement that includes the words "according to a YouTube commenter" automatically renders that statement false.
The girl is not 15. Apparently, she set her MySpace profile to 15 to increase her privacy settings.
Bring back the Lincoln-Douglas debate format. Get rid of the smarmy moderators.
Questions should be vetted simply to weed out "what's your favorite color?" Then let 'em go at it unimpeded by the slanted media process. Mano-a-Womano...
Uhhh... what I wrote and what didn't appear in my last comment was:
I love Biden. He's the only candidate with an actual living, breathing, witty sense of humor.
Biden for VP!
please. she set her myspace profile to 15 so she could get more dates.
i'm surprised no one at slog has jumped all over the sheer tackiness of asking the only female candidate a question about fucking JEWELRY.
Bit slow on the uptake, aren't you, Brandon? That's what this thread is about.
YES that's the best we can hope for, and I'd love to see it happen. For whatever reason, people don't see him as electable (I disagree) but people can't deny that Biden knows his shit- even the other candidates frequently agree with him during debates and acknowledge his experience, accomplishments, and his proposals.
why do i feel like the only biden supporter in america?
guess so, fnarf. i thought it was about the tackiness of planting a question in the audience.
sorry, i always score really low on the reading comprehension portion of standardized tests.
um, as a lesbian, i take offense to the whole "lesbians prefer pearls" thing. don't you know the lesbians prefer jewelry made out of hemp?
brandon - no worries. I think we all just took it for granted that it was ridiculous to ask the only female candidate about jewelry, so instead focused on the whole how did the question get there thing.
in my own defense, what i meant by my original comment was that i was expecting more grumbling from certain, very specific corners of the slogosphere that tend to burst into flames when shit like this happens.
still, i'm kind of slow at times...
...and i'm also surprised that it took 16 comments before a monica/pearl necklace joke came up.
I agree with @21. It was a coded question, and Clinton was savvy enough to provide an answer that works on both a textual and subtextual level. Well played, Clinton, well played...but I'm still voting for Obama.
agreed@31- I gave Biden some $$$ after the last debate. You're not alone. His numbers seem to be staying the cellar, though. Veep material?
"They can have their diamonds
And we'll have our pearls"
-Jill Sobule, _I_Kissed_A_Girl_
That's it, Brandon. Our date's off!
c'mon - cut me some slack, irena! if it's any consolation, i consider bursting into flames to be a very endearing quality :)
Okay, it's on again. (And I promise to recommend you to all the most flaming guys I know.)
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