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<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction</link>
<description>In honor of the impending winter, here&apos;s a KING 5 classic, from the icy streets of Portland. Sometimes it looks like an elegant ice dance performed by automobiles. Then someone starts shouting &quot;LOOKOUTLOOKOUTLOOKOUT!&quot; (shades of the Shangri-Las) then KEE-RASH! People = smart. Thank you, BoingBoing....</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:39:49 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mr. Poe</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>It's almost like that first car couldn't stand the idea of not hitting everything.</p>]]></description>
<author>Mr. Poe</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c855946</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c855946</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:47:58 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Greg</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Some people really do deserve to be pulled out of their cars and beaten.</p>]]></description>
<author>Greg</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c855947</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c855947</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:48:02 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Michigan Matt</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>This is totally awesome.  </p>]]></description>
<author>Michigan Matt</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c855964</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c855964</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:03:15 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by tsm</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I just don't get in a vehicle whenever there's the slightest bit of snow on the ground here. Apparently no one in the Northwest is capable of anticipating or properly preventing a skid.</p>]]></description>
<author>tsm</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c855966</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c855966</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:04:47 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Chris B</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Picture yourself near a road in the winter,<br />
With anti-lock brakes, at the end of your drive...<br />
Cresting the hilltop, with no sign of stopping,<br />
A girl in a Scion slides by...</p>

<p>Chryslers and Nissans crash into the kerb,<br />
Waiting to be towed away...<br />
Stomp on the brakes but, alas, it's too late, <br />
and you're gone...</p>

<p>*stomp stomp stomp*</p>

<p>[My brain and welcome to it...]</p>]]></description>
<author>Chris B</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c855972</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c855972</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:14:18 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Levislade</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>What a nightmare.  Those people must've needed some serious spreadsheets to keep track of everyone's insurance information. </p>]]></description>
<author>Levislade</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c855982</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c855982</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:20:40 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by kid icarus</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Almost as much fun as waiting for the fools to come down the Counterbalance after a light dusting.</p>]]></description>
<author>kid icarus</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856001</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856001</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:34:37 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Eric in Boulder</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@5:  Lucy's gonna slide her Daimler </p>]]></description>
<author>Eric in Boulder</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856039</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856039</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:58:46 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Total wusses.</p>

<p>I grew up driving on black ice, with 3 foot snow falls.</p>

<p>And you call this "bad driving conditions"?</p>

<p>Yeah, sure .... now do the hamster dance ...</p>

<p>I've spun out going down a hill here, and not panicked and did what any sane driving instructor tells you to do, and it's not a big deal.</p>

<p>Oh, you have these things on your automatic - it's called 2 and 3 - those are lower gears for weather like this. Or on a stick, downshift.  And stop tailgating when it snows, and you might not hit things ...</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856044</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856044</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:00:19 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by kerri harrop</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>david schmader, i love you.</p>]]></description>
<author>kerri harrop</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856050</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856050</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:04:38 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by The CHZA</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or did the driver of the first car appear to actually try to go faster? I swear it sounded like it was accelerating when it did that loopy left turn....</p>]]></description>
<author>The CHZA</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856053</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856053</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:07:26 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Matt Fuckin&apos; Hickey</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'd forgotten about this fun clip! Same thing happened to me a year ago on Lakeview. Remember that half-inch of snow we got on a Wednesday night last year? That, coupled with the bald tires on my car, were enough to cause an 8MPH accident. Lame.</p>]]></description>
<author>Matt Fuckin&apos; Hickey</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856072</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856072</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:23:02 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Dod</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>#9 - I am SO with you. People in this city are wusses when it comes to the Elements. But then, sounds like we both learned to drive in nasty weather and are a little more accustomed to it. </p>

<p>The thing that gets me is the weather forecasters. Take last night, for example...is it REALLY necessary to have three separate reporters scattered around the region to provide a live 10 minute update on the light dusting that totals all of a 1/2 a millimeter?!? OMG. It kills me. Every year.  </p>]]></description>
<author>Dod</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856074</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856074</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:23:13 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bellevue Ave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>lmao, I loved that first car. it was fighting so hard that id caused itself more damage. </p>]]></description>
<author>Bellevue Ave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856083</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856083</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:28:27 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by SDA in SEA</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Awesome. That first car managed to hit nearly everything in sight. I don't think he (she?) could have hit any more cars if they tried.</p>

<p>#9 & 13, don't be so harsh. Back in the midwest, where I lived as a kid, we used to get tons of snow. However, it was also flat. There wasn't a hill of note within a hundred miles. With patience, it was quite driveable even with 3' of snow. Here in Seattle, if you start sliding on a hill, even on the thinnest ice, no amount of skill or experience will make much difference. You're not stopping till you hit something or get to the bottom.</p>]]></description>
<author>SDA in SEA</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856158</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856158</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:40:09 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@13 - Storm Watch 2007!</p>

<p>Makes me want to puke - once I see them in their parkas, I change the channel.</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856166</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856166</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:42:40 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Geni</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Clueless fuckheads+Giant heavy vehicles+Portland ice storms=fun for hours for the disinterested observer with a phone camera.</p>

<p>Didja notice how nearly every vehicle that lost control was a large, heavy 4-wheel-drive SUV?  People don't seem to understand physics.  4-wheel-drive helps you GO.  It does nothing whatever to help you stop, or slow on a hill, and the weight of the vehicle, combined with the excessive speed caused by your 4WD causing overconfidence, combined with low friction, will cause you to discover this fact.  On the other hand, that compact car shown near the end of the clip seemed to be in relative control; at any rate, it didn't show him hitting anything.</p>

<p>I drove home last year in the midst of the snowstorm, with big SUVs, trucks, and buses jackknifing all around me.  I drove slowly and carefully, changing gears and turning with great caution, and using my brakes almost not at all.  My car's a stick, so I was using the engine to slow myself, not the brakes.  My car never so much as wagged its tail, while people were smacking into parked cars and lightpoles all around.  Then again, I didn't start down the big hill until I called ahead to find out if the route was relatively clear.  The best way to avoid an accident on a steep downhill in bad weather is not to go down that hill at all if you can help it.</p>]]></description>
<author>Geni</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856179</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856179</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:48:55 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by COMTE</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Um, gee guys, that's great that you, like, you know, learned to drive  through midwestern blizzards going uphill to school both ways and all.  Now, please tell us how your parents cut you up into little pieces every morning, then fed you hot gravel for breakfast.</p>

<p>Funny @5, because when I watched this, the first thing that popped into my head was The Who's "Pinball Wizard":</p>

<p>Ever since it started snowing<br />
I’ve tried to reach the mall<br />
By sliding past my neighbor’s<br />
Cars each nestled in their stall<br />
But my brakes are all but useless<br />
As the flakes they start to fall<br />
Now this clueless winter driver<br />
Feels like he’s playing pin ball</p>

<p>I skate just like a curling stone<br />
Behind the wheel of my machine<br />
Feeling all the bumpers<br />
Against which I careen<br />
I’ll have to check my coverage<br />
Give my insurance man a call<br />
‘Cause this clueless winter driver<br />
Feels like he’s playing pin ball</p>

<p>I’m a clueless winter driver<br />
I’ve hit twenty cars today<br />
Clueless winter driver<br />
Barely out of my driveway</p>

<p>How do you think I do it? <br />
(I don't know) <br />
What makes me so dumb? </p>

<p>I ain’t got no ABS <br />
on this here SUV<br />
Don’t need no winter studs<br />
No four-wheel-drive for me<br />
I’ll make myself a laughing-stock<br />
As down the street I crawl<br />
Just a clueless winter driver<br />
Thinks he’s playing pin ball</p>

<p>I thought I was <br />
Among winter driving champs<br />
But I just bashed up<br />
Three dozen car head lamps</p>

<p>Now I’m stopped against the curbside<br />
Wondering how I’m gonna pay<br />
For all the fricking damage<br />
I meted out today<br />
Someone pounding on my window<br />
You should hear the names he calls<br />
I’m a clueless winter driver<br />
And he’s gonna have my balls<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>COMTE</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856183</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856183</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:51:26 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jimmy Legs</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or is everybody from the Midwest (that somehow ended up here) a total righteous asshat when it comes to driving in the snow? </p>]]></description>
<author>Jimmy Legs</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856193</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856193</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:02:46 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Richard</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@19 - Seriously. I like being terrified of a light dusting. If you don't like it, get out (now I sound like a republican)!</p>]]></description>
<author>Richard</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856198</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856198</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:07:31 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by LT L</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@19</p>

<p>While us native Midwesterners may be a bit jaded when it come to driving in the snow, you will alternatively see no comments from us about driving up the counterbalance in a stick-shift.</p>

<p>/ringknocker?</p>]]></description>
<author>LT L</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856201</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856201</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:09:26 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by DOUG.</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@19. YES!</p>]]></description>
<author>DOUG.</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856219</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856219</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:30:09 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Greg</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@9: So you're saying that people who didn't regularly drive in snow while learning to drive aren't as good at driving in snow? Holy shit, I think you're on to something there. Great insight!</p>]]></description>
<author>Greg</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856255</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856255</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:03:05 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jimmy Legs</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@23 That's exactly the point... Peeps in the NW don't regularly drive in the snow so.... funny shit ensues. </p>

<p>It’s the attitude that bothers me, the sweeping “People in this city are wusses when it comes to the Elements” proclamations from the snow driving "pros".</p>

<p></p>

<p><br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>Jimmy Legs</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856333</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856333</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:27:06 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Ben</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@15: Right on with the hill thing.  Every town I lived in in SD was pretty much pancake flat all over.  But on top of having hills here, there's also absolutely no infrastructure to handle the snow.  How many plows are there for all of King county?  Six?  In the Midwest, they have the equipment to get the snow off the roads before that three-quarters of an inch of snow turns into an eigth of an inch sheen of ice over all the roads.<br /><br />It just always cracks me up when people try to claim it <i>ever</i> gets too hot or too cold here.  The weather here is fucking gorgeous.</p>]]></description>
<author>Ben</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856386</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856386</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:15:16 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Orphan from Colorado and glad to be Here</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>If coefficient of friction = 0, then ya takes your lumps, hills or no. I dare any pasty faced midwesterner to come out here and tackle the Denny Hill Climb on 1/4" of ice. Don't work no how no way. BTW, is that one of the reasons Portland is supposed to be so great?</p>]]></description>
<author>Orphan from Colorado and glad to be Here</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856400</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856400</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:41:07 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by scharrera</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Oh man, thank you for resurrecting this.  I laughed so hard at this last year when it happened, and now the joy is back.  <br />
But seriously, people who never learned to drive in the snow should either 1. learn to drive in the snow or 2. don't drive in the snow.</p>]]></description>
<author>scharrera</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856425</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856425</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:07:07 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Dod</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@25 - I learned how to drive in Duluth, MN. Winter + Duluth = snow AND hills. <br />
I'm not self-righteous about much, can't I have this one?? Please? (Note: I'm conveniently leaving out the part about salt trucks, plow fleets and Snow Emergency Routes.) </p>

<p>p.s. You're totally right on about the people who go off about the too hot/too cold. Too funny!</p>]]></description>
<author>Dod</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856484</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856484</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:33:06 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bellevue Ave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>i just dont get what kind of balls someone has when they decide to go driving in the snow when they have no frame of reference for doing so. crazy big balls!</p>]]></description>
<author>Bellevue Ave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856486</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856486</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:35:29 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Orv</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@28: Yeah, and I went to college in Houghton.  200+ inches of snow a year, and studded tires were illegal.  The difference was they put down sand.  You can climb a surprisingly steep snow-covered hill with sand and a little momentum.  Here they understandably don't have the infrastructure for that.</p>

<p>That said, last time it snowed here my biggest problem was navigating around all the abandoned cars.  If people can't deal with the weather, why do they try to drive in it?  They should have the good sense to stay home instead of creating problems.</p>]]></description>
<author>Orv</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856536</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856536</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:20:38 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Eric in Boulder</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Comte and Chris B: Excellent, both of you.</p>]]></description>
<author>Eric in Boulder</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856550</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856550</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:05:00 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Suntiger</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I love this city ever so much...</p>]]></description>
<author>Suntiger</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856606</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c856606</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:41:15 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by fisvwdn sator</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>jrinsbp qxmgtzodk uxgpcihy ytdblvh gtuaq pytdu utkzlsam</p>]]></description>
<author>fisvwdn sator</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c869257</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c869257</guid>
<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:02:10 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by pscwbrk eywlhv</title>
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<author>pscwbrk eywlhv</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/a_world_without_friction#c869258</link>
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<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:02:52 -0800</pubDate>
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