Comments on Walking Up Broadway

Shake Shack got busted for health code violations last year. And the hour wait on line at lunch isn't as romantic as it sounds.

But yes. Everybody Hearts New York.

This kind of stuff is why I'm leaving Seattle as soon as I graduate. Seattle is a gorgeous city but the puritan laws and goofy, ultra-left politics are driving me insane. Not being able to drink in the open is ridiculous.

One more reason that SF is Sodom and NY is Gomorrah

I saw that "Walking Up Broadway Posted by Dan Savage" at the top and you know what it reminded me of? Savage Love, the sex thing.

Like a million times people have either asked about porn of themselves they were thinking of creating or had already created. What if it gets on the internet? Or it already has -- what now?

So the answer is the Cris Crocker Offense. At least if you look like you could possibly be young enough in the pictures (bonus if you really were), you can threaten any web site that puts up pictures of you by saying you were under age. Who would risk it for little old you?

I no longer think everything is remembered forever on the net. Entropy is too strong, and if somebody isn't working to keep your pictures around, they'll disappear. You just have to give them a reason not to keep them. It like that cool book, The World Without Us.

Seattle is never going to relax their booze laws. At least not within the next 20 years. You might get to have a beer while watching your grandkids, but for now just forget it. This town is simply uptight, and if anything it's trending uptighter.

I love the photo, Dan. Anything with the Empire State Building in it (almost 80 years old! Way to go, girl!) gets me SOOOO hot. And anyplace in the US is ridiculous compared to Europe with respect to drinking in the park.

Just adults, sitting in a park, enjoying a beer and a burger. Imagine that, Seattle.

But if you light a cigarette anywhere in city limits, Mike Bloomberg jumps out from the shadows and kills you with his bare hands.

Too bad in Berlin they sell open half-liter beers for 1 euro (counting tax!) in half the subway-stations.

Imagine that Seattle: Riding God's own railway network, drinking high quantities of fine German beer for an ultra low price. It pretty much ties with Snoop Dogg's gin and juice.

Too bad one euro is now $19833.3282USD (or $1.40 canadian)

Uh, yeah...nothing like a $12 bottle of beer in Manhattan. I've been to the Shake Shack, and it was alright -- but if Seattle did relax its liquor laws and a similar establishment were, uh, established, it would draw a bunch of no-good hipsters.

Three cheers for brown-bagging Rainiers in the park!

I thought the Shake Shack was a friday evening radio program on KEXP?

Looks like Gotham!

But Seattle has better weed. Way cheaper too.

Seriously Dan, half the establishments in Seattle have outdoor sidewalk seating where you can drink a beer and eat a burger (if it's on the menu), all within a shoulder-width of some underage kid walking down the street, so your analogy isn't exactly sterling. Heck, there are even a couple of places right there on the Seattle Center grounds (Michelangelo's comes first to mind), where I can do exactly the same thing, within spitting distance of the kiddie rides in the Fun Forest.

If you're going to define a "world class city" solely by whether or not you can get shit-faced in a public park, I'd have to say, by the looks of what I've seen, Seattle is definitely right up there; just ask the guys hanging out at Steinbrueck Park any afternoon of the year.

What are you doing in my city?!?! Or more appropriately, why aren't you staying FOREVER?

As for the above comment, New York will always maul Seattle in half. Your short man complex isn't even worth talking about.

Ahhh...I'm so jealous, Dan. Enjoy New York. Either you love it or hate it. I loved it. That is a city that will steal your heart! (In more ways than one! hehe jk.) I'm surprised Dan doesn't already call NYC home! It is a magical place, especially if you have a lot of cash. :) It kinda sucks though if you can't afford rent. I once was on top of the Empire State building during a snow storm! Unbelievable! Magical! Highly recommended! Also, if you get the chance, check out amateur night at the Apollo up in Harlem! You'll probably be the only white guy there! It is so fun! Well, have fun. Safe traveling! :)

welcome to the city. You can also go to the turtle pond in central park and drink without too much harrassment.

sometime you should post about why you stay in seattle.

Yeah, NY rocks. Rub it in some more, eh?

Do NOT miss the Hop Devil Grill; $1 JD shots and awesome beer. Oh, and mussels better than should be found anywhere west of the ocean.

Hey I love NY as much as the next person (and was born in Manhattan), but you can have a beer in most of the PUBLIC parks in FUCKING MEMPHIS for god's sake - so I wouldn't get my knickers in a big old densified urban blue state twist over this.

Great photo, though!

PS - last I checked, you can still drink at Lake Sammamish State Park. Field trip, anyone?

I can imagine that.

Just like I can imagine walking a block or two to a subway station and catching a train that will take me anywhere in the city (and beyond) in mere minutes.

Yeah, how dare you tell us anything about any other city !
You seem to be saying there might be better, or other, ways of doing things -- a horrible thought!

We natives are going to cover our eyes and ears if you try again!
The best part of our culture here is our preferred ignorance about everywhere else and we won't let you wreck it!

what? you're in town? OMG have dinner with me. I'll take you to Shake Shack...I'll take you to Burger Joint. Whatever burger place you want. BRGR, BLT Burger, Corner Bistro, Dumont, Burgers & Cupcakes...aghhh I

Okay My feelings are now public. I feel better.

Not sure why you're in NYC Dan, but welcome back! You're right, the weather is ridiculously nice right now.

Oh, and if you're here on Thursday night, you can get $1 margaritas in Chelsea from 8:00-2:00. They definitely taste like they're only $1, but for less than $10 you can get fairly intoxicated - who says NYC has to be expensive? Plus, it's at a bar that's usually leather/bear but turns into a younger mix crowd on Thursdays - something different, anyway!

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New York is the best.

Okay, is Seattle really responsible for these bullshit rules, or is it the Liquor Control Board? Cause I know the LCB is responsible for a lot of bullshit rules, like the tape over the shirtless male bartenders at The Eagle, nixing Babeland's dildo ring toss some years back, and other bullshit like that.

Welcome to New York Dan!

Not that I don't enjoy reading about your Seattle pride drama and your berries, but it's nice to read about something I actually recognize.

And Hop Devil Grill is not that great. But NY is.

It's the LCB.

Be grateful it's not like the old days.
Last call @ 11:45 PM on Saturdays,
No booze anywhere on Sundays.

If you wanted to go to another table, you had to summon a server. It was illegal to carry your own drink across the room.

The worst of all, you could not drink alcohol while standing.
Yep, everyone had to sit down.

Seattle has gotten SO grown up, no?

What? No fences like the ones The Stranger puts around its supposed Capitol Hill "block party"...

I love going to the Philharmonic or Opera in central park. Everyone brings a bottle of wine and some cheese, or a beer and guacamole. It's such a treat in the summer.
I did notice that during the Puerto Rican day parade, the police crack down on people drinking in the park at the festivities.
Is that discrimination?

I love going to the Philharmonic or Opera in central park. Everyone brings a bottle of wine and some cheese, or a beer and guacamole. It's such a treat in the summer.
I did notice that during the Puerto Rican day parade, the police crack down on people drinking in the park at the festivities.
Is that discrimination?

...only if they die on their doorstep in a hail of police bullets while reaching for their keys.

Oh wait, I actually meant YES.

My relatives on the upper west side host our yearly family gatherings. Last I was out for my nephew's brit milah. Manhattan is a real city, with true density. I hope Seattle can become more and more like Manhattan.

I really hate how the Christians in Seattle ruin the fun for everyone. In New York an adult can do whatever they want. I have to say once again, that Judaism is a more mature religion, that's why New York is so cool.

Oh the humanity.... drinking beer in public while eating your burger and fries....

I miss NY :(

@32, did you seriously just reference the Christians in Seattle? Washington is the least "churchy" state in the union, and Seattle one of the least churchy cities.

Seattleites may be prudes, but they're overwhelmingly secular prudes.

Hello Mars Hill?!? As a Jew in Seattle I have Christianity shoved in my face every moment. We were not even allowed to have our sacred Menorah in the Seattle Airport last winter, but the Christians have Snowmen, elves and snowflakes everywhere. Even Starbucks (which happens to be owned by a Jew) caved in to this Christian nonsense and plastered red and green glass globes and stars all over the place.

If you think Seattle is not Christian, you are in deep denial. Jews in Seattle have been forced to live in the ghetto around Volunteer Park for a Century. It makes me sick how anti-semitic Seattle is.

Wow, Issur, you're amazing.

And the Stranger is the media sponsor for the Cap Hill Block Party. We don't run the event, make decisions about other sponsors (hello, esurance), or decide what kind of fences go where, etc.

@35: yes, but the xtians don't want elves, snowflakes and snowmen...those are for show...the really wingnuts want you to pose with baby jesus while holding the 12 commandments at your kids Christmas NOT HOLIDAY pageant!!! hehe. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying. Snowmen, snowflakes and elves are good for people like me who just like decorations. :)

@35: Snowmen and elves are secular interpretations of a Christian holiday appropriated from pagans. (How snowflakes even begin to qualify as "Christian," I'm not really sure.) Come see me when Starbucks posts nativity scenes in its windows.

As for Mars Hill -- sure, it's a pretty conservative Christian church. But can you name another one (at least within city limits)? The fact that Mars Hill contrasts so much with the Unitarian churches, non-denominational community churches, the mainstream Protestant churches in decline, and the Muslim/Episcopal priest says more about the decline of Christianity here than anything.

Oh, and fuck you. I thought we were talking about Christian influence, not anti-Semitism. Are they considered one and the same now?

(PS: No one's "forcing" Jews to live in any particular neighborhood in Seattle, at least not lately. So get off your martyrdom horse.)

Hell, I lived in NY (long island) for 6.5 years. You can buy a beer in the LIRR train station, they put it in a BROWN PAPER BAG and off you go to the train. It's totally OK. See people all the time going to/from the hockey, basketball, baseball games and work with beers in hand. Plus in NY, the bars are open and serve until 4 AM. Not so nice when you live by one, but fun nonetheless. I moved back to Montana and now can't understand the totally restrictive attitudes towards alcohol. I was all over NY and it seemed fine. Smoking---bad. Alcohol---good. Go figure.

No one's mentioned this yet, but all throughout Louisiana, you can get DRIVE-THROUGH DAQUIRIS. (They just put a piece of masking tape over the straw-hole, which is like hiding your genitals with a fig leaf.) I'm glad they don't do that in Manhattan; traffic here is crazy enough already.

We were given a ticket for walking down the sidewalk in Manhattan with a bottle of wine and two glasses - on our way from gallery to bar. No amount of "New Orleans resident, we can drink on the street" got me out of that - nor did offering the cops a glass. Glad the good city is relaxing & you're there to enjoy it.

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