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<title>Slog - Comments on The Weaker Intention</title>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention</link>
<description>Recently, in writing about Nan Goldin&apos;s controversial photograph of two girls, one with her legs spread—Edda and Klara Belly Dancing, Berlin (1998), I called it one of the few works of art I could think of that was made for children, that set adults on the outside. I just remembered another that purports to be: Tseng Yu-Chin&apos;s Who Is Listening?, a series of five scenes, two of which I saw at this summer&apos;s Documenta 12 in Kassel. They&apos;re uncomfortable, to say the least. In one, the faces of giggling children are spurted with milk or yogurt, which makes them giggle...</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:30:38 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bellevue Ave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>HOLY CRAP!</p>]]></description>
<author>Bellevue Ave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831429</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:49:50 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>So now she's using staged "innocent" play to mimic bukkake. On an Asian child, too (bukkake almost always features Japanese women). That's getting awfully close to the edge. She's getting more open about confronting our knowledge of what those images look like, I suppose, but it's turning into propaganda, not art. I don't like it. I've never been a fan, but this is too much.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831444</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:02:42 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Greg</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, these ones bother me, too. Especially because I just found out one of my friends is going to prison for statutory rape.</p>]]></description>
<author>Greg</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831445</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:02:57 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bellevue Ave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>fnarf, I hate to be the resident expert on bukkake but...</p>

<p>I think whitey has reached parity with the japanese for bukkake. now it might not be to the quantity of men as used in japan, but there is definitely tons and tons and tons of 10-20 guy bukkake porns in the united states, especially on the internet. </p>]]></description>
<author>Bellevue Ave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831453</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:30:22 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'll take your word for it, Bellevue Ave!<br /><br />
But "Asian" is still the iconic image, which is what I assume the photographer is going for. <br /><br />
I apologize for being stupid; I thought Jen was saying these were new Nan Goldins. They're not.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831464</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:37:58 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Kim</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>that shot with the milk on the giggling kid's head made me shudder.</p>]]></description>
<author>Kim</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831536</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:31:46 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Teresa</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>It's funny, but when I first scrolled down to this post and saw it had a photo, I looked at the photo first before I read what you'd written.  And I thought "oh, how cute!"  Bukkake (though I know plenty of people well versed in Japanese subcultures who have told me all about it)never crossed my mind. </p>

<p>In other words, I wasn't creeped out until I read what you wrote.  </p>

<p>And I wonder, when you saw the scenes originally, was there any literature in pamphlets or on the wall describing the work as "controversial?"  Very often, I feel like hype or debate in print that preceeds an art show like that colors the viewer's response to it.  They then prepare themselves for "controversy" and respond to that, as opposed to just taking the image on its own merit and responding to <i>that</i>.  What do you think?</p>]]></description>
<author>Teresa</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831571</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:54:53 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Sandra Dee</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this one was made for "mother's and children". Its really sad that the innocence of child/parent interaction and   harmless play have to be psycho analyzed and twisted into creepy. </p>

<p>Anyone who's ever been around a 4 year old knows how naturally sexual they are. It's when they're discovering their bodies, feelings and sensations. Big deal! Why is admitting that seemingly creepy? Nan Goldin is no more or less a prev than this guy because all they are doing is observing, or perhaps emphasizing that fact. Regardless of whether its "staged", it's a fact of life. </p>

<p>I don't get the distinction other than to have a more specific opinion on the art subject - sort of add to the dialogue that's floating around for legitimacy. I tried to be creeped out but who cares? The real thing is way more gross. And perhaps is there a double standard because he's male? </p>

<p>I remember in My Neighbor Totoro (Hayao Miyazaki) the dad takes a bath with his two daughters and they playfully splash each other with water and bubbles. Why is that not creepy? Cuz it's a cartoon? </p>

<p>Different cultures. I think it says more about us.</p>]]></description>
<author>Sandra Dee</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831681</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:40:29 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by got milk?</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>My pals and I once got in a powder fight when we were 12. Go figure.</p>]]></description>
<author>got milk?</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831684</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831684</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:45:46 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Greg</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@8: What do you think the artist is trying to say with the yogurt and milk on the face? What does that mean artistically?</p>]]></description>
<author>Greg</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831707</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831707</guid>
<category>Arts</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:04:58 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Sandra Dee</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@8 What do you think the artist is trying to say, artistically?</p>]]></description>
<author>Sandra Dee</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831728</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:24:48 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Sandra Dee</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@10 My answer: Nothing. Why?</p>]]></description>
<author>Sandra Dee</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831729</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831729</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:26:46 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Sandra Dee</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>In @11 I meant to be asking @10 the same question. </p>]]></description>
<author>Sandra Dee</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831737</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c831737</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:36:00 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by BillyBob</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Jeez-Us!  I most be a-getting even more cynical, because these images just didn't phase me, negatively or positively.</p>]]></description>
<author>BillyBob</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c832079</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c832079</guid>
<category>Arts</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:51:34 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Greg</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>So if the artist is saying nothing, what is this? Not art, surely.</p>]]></description>
<author>Greg</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c832134</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c832134</guid>
<category>Arts</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:57:05 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hakwest</title>
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<author>Hakwest</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c841356</link>
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<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:26:34 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hakwest</title>
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<author>Hakwest</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c841357</link>
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<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:26:47 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hakwest</title>
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<author>Hakwest</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c841870</link>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:01:31 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hakwest</title>
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<author>Hakwest</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/the_weaker_intention#c841871</link>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:03:21 -0800</pubDate>
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