Edwards/Obama for the win!

Note how Hillary Clinton keeps nearly all her votes when Gore is added to the mix, but Obama does a double-digit drop.

I think that at this point Gore has no chance even if he does get in. To late to make the money AND get himself put on the ballots in the early primary states. It sucks I know but we may have to deal with a Clinton Administration AND the fun of staying in Iraq until at least 2013.

I hate America....Someone please invade us...please....

I hate America....Someone please invade us...please....

Why kill time when you can k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-kill yourself?

Is there a joker in this deck?

Richardson gets 26% if Gore is included?

Okay. It's 11:35 or so. I've voted for Richardson a total of 50 times in the second pole. He's in the lead at 28%, just wanted to bump him past Gore. I hope this does not ruin any actual statistics.

Richardson FTW!!!

Fuck! Now he's tied at 27% with Gore. Man, voting is a tough game. I guess I take 'vote often' very, very seriously.

Teehee!

Thanks, Mr Poe. Time for some draconic anti-poll-stuffing tech. This may disenfranchise a few people, but will stop dweebs like you from stuffing the ballot. Oh shit, almost forgot... the Ohio Republican Party committee would like a word with you this afternoon.

I can't vote in both polls. Once I submit one, the second one says, "Too many comments have been submitted from you in a short period of time. Please try again in a short while."

Hey Poe - Your duplicate votes have been deleted. Knock it off.

Greg @ 9: Try quitting and then restarting your browser.

Note to vote-stuffers: don't brag about it before the polls close.

I was thinking about stuffing the ballots (clearing cookies and going through a proxy server when I voted too many times) and then bragging about it. But then I thought -- why not just say I was stuffing the ballots, without actually doing the work? You get to raise just as much doubt, so why waste the time?

But then I thought, if you're going to cheat, don't lie about it. So I went ahead and stuff the ballot.

Or did I???

GASP! Well for what it's worth, it was a good laugh. For me. Mwahahahah!

@Fnarf

I don't think it would have mattered either way. Richardson at #1? All Anthony would have to do is check the log to see that there were duplicates. And he would have. Because nobody likes Richardson. Nobody but me.

I don't get all you Gore fanboys. I think you have selective amnesia.

Don't get me wrong. I like Gore a lot these days. I thought "The Inconvenient Truth" was great, and I love his environmental stance. His skit on SNL was hysterical. I think he's been doing lots of great things in his post-VP years.

But have you completely forgotten the 2000 campaign? He had everything in his favor, and he lost. He couldn't even win his home state. His campaign was a train wreck, and he looked like a zombie with a stick up his ass. Yes, yes, technically the FL vote should have gone to Gore, and the Supreme Court handed Bush the election on a platter. But it shouldn't even have been close enough to matter. Following on Clinton's popular presidency, Gore should have cake-walked right through that election and beaten Bush by 15%.

I like Gore, and I think he'd make a pretty decent president. But there is no evidence that he can campaign any better now than he did 8 years ago. If he gets in again, I fear it will just lead to a Giuliani presidency. Ugh.

I'm going for Edwards. He has a better energy plan than Obama and I want end this Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton thing before it goes any further.

Gore used to have his beliefs mocked in the serious, main stream media. But he has been proven right about not just global warming and Iraq, but his specialty: making the government work well. In many ways he is the antithesis of the neocon corporatist government, dependent on private contractors, demoralized, and utterly corrupt.

He pronounces words correctly and uses sentences. He embodies the idea that you study something, then decide what you think about it -- rather than decide based on your prejudices and order your flunkies to study it to justify what you decided. He isn't afraid to negotiate, and to compromise, with those who disagree with you.

Al Gore is the most unlike Bush of any other candidate I can think of.

I am really afraid that if Clinton wins the nomination, and she very well may, folks who are now for Obama will stay away from the polls and some asshole Republican will win. No matter who wins the nomination Democrats need to vote Democratic. Don't lose heart!

Why the love affair with Obama? He comes across as someone who is trying VERY hard to act Presidential, and having a tough time maintaining the charade. He's had some eyebrow raising gaffes.

He really doesn't have much of a record on anything. I suppose that may be why people like him (he hasn't had time to piss anyone off yet).

"No matter who wins the nomination Democrats need to vote Democratic."

Amen! Also, Republicans need to vote Democratic. And independents. And children. And cadavers. And housepets.

I didn't know Gore was on the shortlist for the Nobel Peace Prize.

I think people are voting Gore just to piss off the people who keep bitching about having Gore in the poll, and/or to fuck with Eli's head.

If Tipper Gore had her way, you'd need ID showing you were over 18 to get a copy of the Stranger.

Someone at an internet cafe is having fun switching computer terminals to add extra votes.

@14 - if the poll was programmed well, it wouldn't LET you submit multiple votes.

Or maybe if there was some way that you could tell the server who you are, some way that only you could access things like polls or comments under your name... some kind of master list, where you could "log in" and submit information and trust that it is accurate.

Man. Someone smart should invent some kind of mechanism that does that! They probably make real salaries, though.

@16: The nice thing about Obama is that, as President, instead of thinking he knows everything about everything, he would listen to people that actually do, and make decisions and policies accordingly.

Instead of, say, cooking up some sort of insanely complex codification of the anti-consumer status quo.

Obama is not electable for the sheer fact that his middle name is Hussein. How is that going to fly with Joe America when every anti-Obama ad starts out "Barack Hussein Obama..."?

I wonder if Obama fans would vote for fluffy bunnies if they could run.

Wake up, losers.

@26

His middle name is Hussein; his first rhymes with Iraq; and his last rhymes with Osama.

Three strikes, if you ask me.

Left-wing puritans, mistakenly convinced that America is a liberal and not a moderate country, will only vote for Gore as long as he's not running. If he jumps in the race, they'll switch to Nader or someone else (just like in 2000) to hand the presidency to the Republicans. For a history of left-wing puritans handing elections to Republicans, see 1968 (attacking LBJ to give Nixon the win), 1972 (backing McGovern), 1980 (backing Kennedy in the primaries), 1984 (Mondale), 1988 (Dukakis), etc., etc., etc. I wonder how many more years of Republican presidents this world can take.

I second #19. I actually support Michelle Obama, but that's because I'm biased and I want the first African American President to be a woman.

I support Hillary because I'm a moderate dem, she's been through the ringer, she's savvy, smart, she has the connections, she's a mover with a record to prove it.

I don't support Obama because I don't feel the compelling case that I should. He's a intelligent man and I've done the research but I can't get past the rhetoric...and all these loony progressive white people who are backing him-which frankly, scares the hsit out of me as a black person.

How does that old saying go? "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result."

Doing the same thing over and over again and finding it interesting if Obama moves up or down two percentage points, on the other hand, apparently constitutes "political coverage." After all, it's "statistically significant"! (though "utterly meaningless").

You know if Gore wins the Nobel, the right-wing radio adenoidal halfwits will simply begin dissing the Nobel Committee and the inestimable worth of the prize. Having won an Oscar (well, his producer did), an Emmy and a Nobel all within one year would seem to make him a Presidential Certainty. But electable - never. His beans would be refried once again by the same zany bean friars (sic).

Sidebar: So far, only one person has won both an Oscar and a Nobel. Who?

(note, I always just vote once)

Looks like Gore/Obama 08 is the ticket for America!

oh, and judging by Bethesda, looks like a tossup between Obama and Clinton in DC right now, based on supporter stickers I saw at Bite of Bethesda.

I agree, I think at this point there's NO WAY Gore will enter the race. It's too late. People have moved on. And with the early primary schedule he'd be at a serious disadvantage. Gore would only run if he could be sure he'd win the primary. But at this point, he couldn't be sure he'd win.

HEY EVERYONE!!! WILL IN SEATTLE WENT TO BITE OF BETHESDA!!!!! IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED HIS MENTION OF IT, 5,000,000 TIMES. HE'S COOL SPECIAL HIP!!! FO SHO!

Wonder if this is the Bethesda Will speaks of? Sounds like a good place in which all of the candidates should dip themselves.

...from the Gospel of St. John: "Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called… Bethesda…whoever then first after the troubling of the waters stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had."

And many signs were borne, albeit in Aramaic, and even though despite one's tongue hindrance, one overcame one's language paucity and deigned that by the counting of the few standard bearers, the man Obama and the woman Bethillary were omenized. And further he or she whosoevereth shouldst takest a poll of such choice wouldst sit at the right hand of Dog and bow down to His boring Will.

Oh, wow, I am like so p0wnd ... not.

It's not too late for Gore, IMHO. It's only October - so long as Gore announces before say Dec 15 he has a good chance.

Why did I post about Bethesda ... I'm trying to say that, in other places around the nation, Obama is fairly strong, and it's not the MSM Clinton-Must-Win view you get from the tube or the web. Even Dodd still has a shot, as does Richardson.

It's not just Seattle or the local area that think Obama has a chance.

[now, don't you feel silly now that I've explained WHY I said that ... or are you still sleep-deprived from too much Halo 3 and not enough time out of doors?]

@38

Back to reality...neither Dodd or Richardson have a shot.