Slog - Comments on OPA Clears Officers in DV-One Case

Comment by monkey

monkey — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:30:09 -0800

It's such a shame. Police are the people you're supposed to be able to trust.

Comment by KELLY O

KELLY O — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:32:12 -0800

Terrible terrible terrible news...

Comment by kerri harrop

kerri harrop — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:37:47 -0800

ren said it with authority.

Comment by Gitai

Gitai — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:38:03 -0800

How much would it cost to get small, shoulder mounted cameras for officers? It seems that camera technology and hard drive space have gotten so damn cheap that it shouldn't be a problem to record everything officers do.

Comment by Katelyn

Katelyn — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:45:12 -0800

I understand that the uniform can make the officer feel all-powerful. That feeling is intoxicating. It might help if we stopped recuiting recent ex-military men for the service... Those guys are already psychos after all they've seen, and their triggers are hyper-sensitive.

Comment by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me

You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:49:33 -0800

�The complainant was arrested for assaulting the employee and the force used during the arrest was deemed reasonable, proper, and necessary as it was done to rescue a police officer struggling with a much larger suspect.�

This is what you can expect when you let girls be cops.

Comment by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me

You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:52:15 -0800

So when does this ass-hat go on trial for assaulting these officers? Sounds like he needs a time out in Walla Walla.

Comment by Dougsf

Dougsf — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:58:38 -0800

They just started using a helmet cam system for cops in London as is apparently working well in every regard (i.e. both police and suspects keep a lid on their behavior during arrests). I'd be in favor of trying this in America cities.

BTW - what happens if officers aren't exonerated by the Board? Is there any real penalties or is it just a little show they put on for the public?

Comment by Gitai

Gitai — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:04:24 -0800

@8 If the board doesn't exonerate them, the Police Chief does and they get off scot free.

Comment by infrequent

infrequent — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:44:22 -0800

this is a more difficult case as the only people to observe the incident were involved. either party could be telling the truth (and both versions could be very close to the truth given how different people view the same situation -- concern for your child could be interpreted as hostility towards those between you and your child).

it's just, unfortunately, not a clear case.

i don't believe that just because they are police they must be telling the truth. or just because they are police they must be lying. but what to do without witnesses? difficult.

Comment by infrequent

infrequent — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:00:58 -0800

i'm for the helmet cam.

Comment by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me

You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:16:10 -0800

@10

There were witnesses:

�An independent witness saw the complainant approach the named employees, who had detained his daughter for walking in the street and blocking traffic."

�None of the other witnesses at the scene, civilian or sworn, heard the employees use any derogatory language.�

Comment by Meinert

Meinert — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:26:07 -0800

Police accountability is just one of the many reasons everyone should vote next month, and vote for Bill Sherman for King County Prosecutor.

Comment by old timer

old timer — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:55:51 -0800

So, was the original trigger a jaywalking violation by the man's daughter?

But, there are no resources to keep gangbangers from shooting up Rainier AV.

Well, now we know where some of those resources are deployed.

Comment by RonK, Seattle

RonK, Seattle — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:59:46 -0800

How many commenters read before commenting?

The complaint was bogus, according to multiple disinterested witnesses (including at least one contra-interested witness), and the complainant initiated a physical assault on one of the officers.

Some complaints are legit, some can't be determined for lack of evidence, and some bogus, bogus, bogus complaints are and lodged by lowlifes who think they can improve their odds of getting away with shit by playing on public gullibility, suspicion and prejudice (as in this case).

In my book, people who play the accountability system to get away with shit belong to the same circle of hell as robbers who feign distress to sucker in their good samaritan victims.

Comment by infrequent

infrequent — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 12:00:29 -0800

the witness (not plural) who saw the elbow said it appeared accidental. is this how you want police to use their judgement? even if dvone was hostile it seems like it might be considered an over-reaction... but this response when the contact was likely accidental? i hope that's not what you consider acceptable police behavior.

furthermore, if the police used expressions like, "liked being Tased?" i would be disgusted. i have seen police verbally express attitude like this when dealing with people, and when dealing with obvious criminals. i don't care; it is not necessary. police should have the emotional detachment of the law when administering it. if an officer cannot do this, they should not be a police officer.