Slog - Comments on A Mother's Love http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1 A 39-year-old woman forcefully had her 13-year-old daughter's genitalia pierced to make it uncomfortable for her to have sex, the girl told jurors in her mother's child abuse trial. The girl, now 16, told jurors Wednesday that her mother asked a tattoo artist friend in 2004 to shave the girl's head to make her unattractive to boys and later held her down for the piercing. "She was trying to protect me, but it hurt me," the girl testified. "It not only hurt me physically, but it hurt me mentally. ... That's emotionally scarring. That's physical abuse." Prosecutor Steve Maresca said... Copyright 2008 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:59:09 -0800 Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:29:37 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Mr. Poe Ooooooh! With her mothers boyfriend?! Go guuuurrrrll!!!

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833445 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833445 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:05:33 -0800 Comment by cunei4m Stupid, chauvinistic question ahead...

Was it pierced shut? Probably would have been a good idea...plus a lock.

]]> cunei4m http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833452 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833452 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:11:52 -0800 Comment by uc What was that girl doing having sex with her mom's boyfriend? There are so many things wrong with that. Especially if the boyfriend is not being brought in on rape charges!

]]> uc http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833458 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833458 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:13:59 -0800 Comment by Matt from Denver As Poe indicates, the final paragraph is the pertinent one. I don't think Mom would've done it if not for that.

Still, Mom's a psychotic shit if it's true.

]]> Matt from Denver http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833484 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833484 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:29:47 -0800 Comment by Lake I think Poe is cheering the young girl here.

This (mom getting jealous, crazy over foster daughter doing boyfriend) in White Oleander

]]> Lake http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833492 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833492 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:36:27 -0800 Comment by tsm Mom's boyfriend has sex with her 13-year-old daughter, and she focuses her wrath on the kid? Man, that's some serious Jerry Springer shit.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833499 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833499 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:40:24 -0800 Comment by ecshamaaf Every child should have a mother and a father and a choocha pierced together.

]]> ecshamaaf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833508 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833508 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:45:24 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe I was cheering for her.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833520 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833520 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:50:26 -0800 Comment by Jessica This is why Florida has its own tag on Fark.com.

All I can say is that at least she didn't attempt to give the girl a clitoridectomy. Had she heard of it, god only knows what we could have been reading.

]]> Jessica http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833528 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833528 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:52:47 -0800 Comment by vvang Thats it. Im killing myself.

]]> vvang http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833534 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833534 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:53:46 -0800 Comment by michael strangeways Was the mother in question Mia Farrow?

]]> michael strangeways http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833538 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833538 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:55:49 -0800 Comment by Giffy Not to make light or anything, but its not like bald chicks with clit rings have a hard time getting laid. Suicide Girls anyone.

]]> Giffy http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833540 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833540 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:57:27 -0800 Comment by Sargon Bighorn White trash, my kind of people. Mom I told you not to let that man into our trailer and make him your boyfriend. Now sissy is wailing to the law!

]]> Sargon Bighorn http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833565 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833565 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:15:17 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe White Trash. That's how it should be spelled.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833585 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833585 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:27:19 -0800 Comment by COMTE @6:

My thought precisely - if she was capable of doing this to her own daughter, I can only imagine "mom's boyfriend" has been thoroughly "Bobbittsized" by now, which gruesome as it may sound, would have been more appropriate than this.

]]> COMTE http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833588 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833588 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:30:42 -0800 Comment by Gitai @12 Exactly. Girls with shaved heads and pierced clits just attract a scummier type of guy, and in the context of a story in which a 13 year old girl is fucking her mom's boyfriend, I don't even wanna think what that means.

]]> Gitai http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833632 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833632 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:00:58 -0800 Comment by Morgan Didya see that that PIERCER got sentenced to a YEAR in jail (not the mom, not the boyrfriend/pedophile, but the PIERCER!)

]]> Morgan http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833637 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833637 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:07:19 -0800 Comment by ignorant I'm sure it hurt like crazy, but can you just remove that kind of peircing and have it go away, like a peirced ear? Or is it more permenant damage? Will it mess up her sex life forever like a clitorectemy would?

]]> ignorant http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833655 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833655 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:30:26 -0800 Comment by OR Matt @18

Yeah, why the hell didn't she just take it out? Was mom actually inspecting the area?

]]> OR Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833658 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833658 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:36:53 -0800 Comment by pretentious #18: a pierced clitoral hood heals very very quickly when pierced and when removed. no sensation loss- it's actually better, because you're not gritting your teeth over the intensity.

i'm wondering if she didn't have the labia pierced instead. that hurts like hell and gets in the way of everything. thankfully it also heals quickly once the jewelry is taken out.
mmmm, vascular.

]]> pretentious http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833675 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833675 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:48:10 -0800 Comment by Amelia Yeah... I thought clit piercings intensified your orgasm... huh...

]]> Amelia http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833696 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833696 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:17:52 -0800 Comment by ahava @15,

I sincerely doubt this woman did much to the boyfriend in question. Women like that rarely blame the person truly responsible. He probably blamed the kid, the "mother" forgave him and then decided to punish the daughter.

I love what the mother's lawyer said -- that in his client's mind, she really had no other options to try to save her out of control daughter.

]]> ahava http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833698 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833698 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:22:24 -0800 Comment by Giffy @22, dammit if I don't have a nickel for every time a a 13 year old tricked me into having sex with them. Every damn day I'm just going about my business when all of a sudden I'm fucking a child.

]]> Giffy http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833735 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833735 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:34:55 -0800 Comment by COMTE Yeah, I'll bet Dan gets at least a half-dozen letters exactly like that every week...

]]> COMTE http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833745 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833745 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:19:37 -0800 Comment by Gomez Not to be a buzzkill, but I swear I've read this story and and this exact same comments thread a while back.

]]> Gomez http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833778 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833778 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:21:19 -0800 Comment by ahava @23,

People who have sex with 13-year-olds often will say that it was consenual. The kid is sexually aggressive or mature or "wanted it."

This kind of story happens in different forms all the time. And in many cases, there's a stupid woman willing to blame their kid or look the other way, rather than do the job they're supposed to do when they have the kid -- that would be to protect from predators, even if said predator is also a meal ticket or bed buddy.

]]> ahava http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833781 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833781 News Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:30:18 -0800 Comment by Paul I'm a former reporter. I remember a guy in northeastern Missouri who was rung up on 12 or so counts of child abuse. He told the state trooper investigating the case that his daughter had forced HIM to have sex with HER.

She was 8.

]]> Paul http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833816 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833816 News Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:40:34 -0800 Comment by Giffy @6, I hope you didn't think I was disagreeing with you. I was just trying, perhaps poorly, to point out the absurdity of blaming the victim. As if somehow a 13 (or 8) year old would generally even be capable of forcing a grown man to have sex with them. Men can certainly be raped, but generally not by children.

]]> Giffy http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833823 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833823 News Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:21:28 -0800 Comment by Lauren Pedophiles often date women with children because they know it's an effective way to get close to them and often a good way to have immunity from parent prosecution.

The fact that any woman would find themselves in this situation and be so obsessed with the fact that her daughter is "competition" that she completely misses the fact that her daughter IS BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED is evidence of the sorry state of affairs for so many women. You want to talk about women betraying each other in situations where the real enemy is the man/men they're trying so desperately to aqcuire? I can't think of any example more extreme than this kind, and it happens all the time.

]]> Lauren http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833825 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833825 News Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:35:54 -0800 Comment by maxsolomon friggin dirtballs. this sounds like it happened in everett.

]]> maxsolomon http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833876 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833876 News Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:20:26 -0800 Comment by Megan W well...yeah! I mean, even if what the mom/boyfriend combo did was worse, it should still be illegal to forcefully pierce someone!

]]> Megan W http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833998 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c833998 News Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:33:13 -0800 Comment by inkweary Today (Fri. 26th). A story in the wire service news stated that the jury has acquitted the mother of abuse charges. I cannot understand how a group of people could come to that conclusion but they did. The piercer got a year and the mother's boyfriend's trial for statutory rape is pending.

]]> inkweary http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c834026 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c834026 News Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:53:47 -0800 Comment by Tlazolteotl Gee, Dan, not even a hat tip? Bitch!

]]> Tlazolteotl http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c834096 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c834096 News Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:24:43 -0800 Comment by butterw @3 & @23: Do we know how old mom's bf is?
May it's against the mom, not the bf, that should have charges brought.

]]> butterw http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c834131 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c834131 News Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:40:29 -0800 Comment by secondhandsally @13, @14 "White trash" is a pretty racist label. It implies that all other minorities are trash and we need to add "white" to make a distinction from "the other kinds of trash."

]]> secondhandsally http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c834148 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c834148 News Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:49:48 -0800 Comment by Gloria Yeah ... maybe the boyfriend was ... um ... 15. Ew. Fuck. Nothing makes this story remotely more palatable.

]]> Gloria http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c834224 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c834224 News Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:00:55 -0800 Comment by Richard 12: Gitai, just what is it that makes guys who find women with shaved heads and/or piercings atractive "scummy"?

As a guy with a shaved head who really digs piercings in women, I'm just curious.

]]> Richard http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c834257 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/10/a_mothers_love_1#c834257 News Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:29:37 -0800