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Tuesday, September 11, 2007

Ye Olde First Amendment

posted by on September 11 at 10:49 AM

For a newspaper columnist, Joel Connelly has a rather bizarre take on the First Amendment. In a column attacking voters with the gall to bark at elected officials and reporters with the nerve to question candidates about the intersection of their faith and their public life, Joel wrote…

Our Founding Fathers designed the First Amendment to provide an alternative to boorish, repressive and authoritarian behavior.

I thought that was bizarre—and so did Erica Barnett, who picks apart Joel’s column here. We always thought the First Amendment was designed to prevent the government from regulating speech and that it specifically protected rude, offensive speech—particularly when it’s directed at politicians. But, hey, we’re just punk kids! What do we know about ye olde First Amendment? Or what, exactly, was going through the booze-addled brains of our founding fathers when they “designed” it? So I sent Joel’s column to the American Civil Liberties Union HQ in Washington D.C. for comment. Marv Johnson, ACLU Legislative Counsel, wrote back to me this morning.

The one thing we know for sure about our Founding Fathers’ intentions was that they opposed prior restraints on speech. Other than that, the historical record is strangely silent. “Congress shall make no law… abridging the freedom of speech” certainly seems clear, but then Congress in 1798 adopted the Alien and Sedition Act which does exactly that. So, it is unclear exactly what the Founders had in mind, which is why you see very little of “originalist” language in First Amendment decisions….

As for the First Amendment “protecting” us from boorish behavior, that is the antithesis of the “free, wide-open and robust” marketplace of ideas… The First Amendment was certainly NOT adopted to keep people from being vocal about disagreements. To the contrary, it was designed to foster those disaagreements, and keep the government from being the arbiter of the who gets to speak.

Full text of Johnson’s email after the jump.

Dan: Sorry. Forgot about the time difference. . .

The one thing we know for sure about our Founding Fathers' intentions was that they opposed prior restraints on speech. Other than that, the historical record is strangely silent.

"Congress shall make no law. . .abridging the freedom of speech" certainly seems clear, but then Congress in 1798 adopted the Alien and Sedition Act which does exactly that. So, it is unclear exactly what the Founders had in mind, which is why you see very little of "originalist" language in First Amendment decisions.

There are several theories of why free speech is so important in a democratic society:
1. Self-governance. A people cannot govern themselves without the ability to discuss and debate the various issues that they confront.
2. Discovery of truth. This is where the "marketplace of ideas" comes into play. A free people should be able to toss out an idea into the marketplace, and see whether it withstands scrutiny. The civil rights movement could easily be used as an example here.
3. Advancing autonomy. Justice Thurgood Marshall talked about the human spirit demanding self-expression. Under this theory, expression is intrinsically important to human development.
4. Promoting tolerance. By exposing people to beliefs and ideas they may find upsetting, it may promote tolerance towards others' views.
5. It's a safety valve. In a democracy, change should come from ideas rather than from the barrel of a gun. If people have an outlet to express their views, they are less likely to engage in violence.

All of these theories have their proponents and critics, and none of them are necessarily mutually exclusive. You will see various iterations of these theories in the free speech cases from the Supreme Court.

As for the First Amendment "protecting" us from boorish behavior, that is the antithesis of the "free, wide-open and robust" marketplace of ideas discussed in some of the cases. For example, in 1971, in Cohen v. California, a man wore a coat with the phrase "Fuck the Draft" on his back. He was in a public building, and was arrested. The Supreme Court held that he was entitled to express his opinion in this fashion, even though some may be offended by his language. The Court noted , “we cannot indulge in the facile assumption that one can forbid particular words without also running a substantial risk of suppressing ideas in the process.”

The First Amendment was certainly NOT adopted to keep people from being vocal about disagreements. To the contrary, it was designed to foster those disaagreements, and keep the government from being the arbiter of the who gets to speak.

I am also struck by the notion that this country has somehow adopted the attitude that we have a "right" not to be offended. Nothing could be further from the truth in a democratic society. We SHOULD be challenged and offended. That's how we grow and change. The whole notion of "I've made up my mind so don't confuse me with the facts" is how we get into trouble. A judge once told me, "The seven deadliest words in the English language are: 'That's the way we always do it." By protecting speech that we find distasteful, we are able to grow and change. If the idea is that distasteful, then explain WHY it is distasteful. Those arguing for segregation in the South vociferously argued their position. To them, integration was distasteful. But people came to see that their arguments were a hollow shell for racial hatred, and repudiated those ideas. That's what the First Amendment is all about: the power to make us and our country better.

Let me know if you have any questions. Sorry about the typeface change -- Microsoft strikes again! :-)

Marv Johnson
ACLU Legislative Counsel

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1

I hope you're forwarding that to Mr. Connelly.

Posted by Levislade | September 11, 2007 11:08 AM
2

THIS again? Zzzzzzzz

Posted by TTFN | September 11, 2007 11:15 AM
3

Obviously, the only way to end the drama between the curmudgeon and da bratz is to have a saber duel on the lawn of Cal Anderson.

Posted by seattle98104 | September 11, 2007 11:22 AM
4

We miss you already, TTFN.

Posted by EXTC | September 11, 2007 11:23 AM
5

While I thought your article in last week's Stranger jumped the gun by publishing the slam before you talked to Burgess, I thought Connelly's rebuke was way off base. Connelly was wrong on several points, and you are totally right to take him to task over his bizarre interpretation of the First Amendment.

Posted by SDA in SEA | September 11, 2007 11:44 AM
6

It's over, Dan. Joe Connelly can't hurt you any more. Let the healing begin.

Posted by elenchos | September 11, 2007 11:48 AM
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I'm glad she brought up the Alien & Sedition acts. Any time someone says the founding fathers would be rolling in their graves because of the Patriot Act, tell them to look up these acts on Wikipedia.

I'm not defending the patriot act, I'm just saying many (most?) of the founding fathers weren't all that great themselves. If they were still in charge, their zombie hands would be signing legislation to deport every Slog writer and arrest every commenter. The ones they wouldn't enslave or force into marriage, anyway.

Posted by jamier | September 11, 2007 11:54 AM
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@7: Zombie founding fathers! It's not too late for the feel-good movie of the summer. "28 Score Years Later"? "President Evil"?

Posted by Raindog | September 11, 2007 12:06 PM
9

Dan -

Speaking of the First Amendment, this month's Washington State Bar News is all about marriage equality. You might be interested to grab a copy.

Posted by Judah | September 11, 2007 12:06 PM
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Add John Stuart Mill (the guy who wrote "On Liberty") to your list of people who made classic cases for freedom of speech.

Posted by me | September 11, 2007 12:25 PM
11

Joel Connelly is the Seattle P-I's Kathleen Wilson.

Posted by matthew fisher wilder | September 11, 2007 12:49 PM
12

jewelry

Posted by jewelry | September 11, 2007 1:36 PM
13

What #2 said.

Plus:


Dear Joel Connelly,

You are ugly. And stupid.

Sincerely,

Mr. Poe

Posted by Mr. Poe | September 11, 2007 1:40 PM
14

Not that I'm defending Connelly's column, but

"alternative to boorish, repressive and authoritarian behavior."

is not the same as

"alternative to boorish behavior."

Posted by josh | September 11, 2007 2:26 PM
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@14:
The difference is meaningless for the purposes of this argument.

The 1st amendment allows me to speak as boorishly, repressively, and in as authoratarian a manner as I wish.

It even protects Joel's right to publish stupid and ignorant rants.

Posted by Sean | September 11, 2007 2:37 PM
16

Capt. Drew Jensen, a Stryker Brigade soldier, has died in a Seattle hospital of wounds received in Iraq.

Excerpt from \"Say yes to war\" Dan Savage Oct. 2002

Because we\'re not just at war with al Qaeda, stupid. We\'re at war with a large and growing Islamo-fascist movement that draws its troops and funds from all over the Islamic world. Islamo-fascism is a regional problem, not just an al Qaeda problem or an Afghanistan problem. To stop Islamo-fascism, we\'re going to have to roll back all of the tyrannous and dictatorial regimes in the Middle East while simultaneously waging war against a militant, deadly religious ideology. To be completely honest, I would actually prefer that the United States go to war against the ridiculous royal family in Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have been using American money to export their intolerant and deadly strain of Islam all over the world (the kind of Islam that inspires people to blow up discos in Bali), and getting rid of the Saudi royal family and their fascist clerics makes more sense than getting rid of Saddam. But the Saudis are our \"allies,\" so perhaps we can pressure them to reform, as Josh Feit suggests.

In the meantime, invading and rebuilding Iraq will not only free the Iraqi people, it will also make the Saudis aware of the consequences they face if they continue to oppress their own people while exporting terrorism and terrorists. The War on Iraq will make it clear to our friends and enemies in the Middle East (and elsewhere) that we mean business: Free your people, reform your societies, liberalize, and democratize... or we\'re going to come over there, remove you from power, free your people, and reform your societies for ourselves.

Posted by ... | September 11, 2007 8:07 PM
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@16 yes. dan has used his first amendment rights before, and he'll probably do it again.

god the trolls who bring this shit up..., as if bush had a direct line to dan during the post 9/11 era, are boring.

when you post this bullshit you're making me not give a shit at all.

was that what you wanted "_"? cause it's working.

i officially don't give a flying fuck anymore. mission accomplished "_". good work. :)!

Posted by terry miller | September 11, 2007 8:30 PM
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jewelry

Posted by jewelry | September 12, 2007 1:11 AM
19

I think his point is that maybe we should have intelligent discussions instead of crass shouting matches that devolve into he who yells the loudest or is the most obnoxious wins (i.e. FoxNews).

Just my 2 cents

Posted by Neil | September 12, 2007 6:41 AM
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Dan you and Marv are both lost. Connelly is saying the first amendement (and the ability to practice free speech) is an alternative or opposite of boorish, repressive and authoritative government. You are missing his point. Your opinions and columns have run their course.

Toby

Posted by Toby | September 12, 2007 7:01 AM
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Was Connelly perhaps refering to the "Freedom of Religion" portion of the First Ammendment rather than the "Freedom of Speech" part when discussing political candidates facing questions about their religious affiliations? Not defending anyone, just a thought...

Posted by mrgoolsby | September 13, 2007 12:23 PM
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My wife smells like a bear.

Posted by Toby | September 14, 2007 4:11 AM

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