Slog - Comments on The War Forever http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever What is the meaning of this? "[U]nderstand that their success [Iraqi leaders] will require U.S. political, economic and security engagement that extends beyond my presidency." One possibility: GWB knows that war is already a failure not in and of itself but because it will not extend beyond his presidency. Had he but world enough and time, the war would grow, expand, and express the success that is in its seed. Another possibility: GWB imagines the war will not expire when his presidency expires, which means he sees the war as something that has a life of its own, a life... Copyright 2008 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:19:53 -0800 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:02:31 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Issur Charles, I'm your biggest fan, but here you are wrong. Hillary Clinton and every other credible Democrat is commited to the security of Israel. American Airbases in Iraq are for the security of Israel if/when the attack on Iran occurs.

We are winning this war because Israel is stronger militarily than ever before. It's fine to let off steam whining about the war ending. But among adults who support Israel, it's not a war it's the gradual conversion of the Middle East into a pro-American, pro-Israel democracy. It'll take time (Tikkum Olam is generational) but Israel is worth it. On Rosh Hashanah today let's all say a prayer for Israel.

]]> Issur http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805160 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805160 News Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:04:51 -0800 Comment by charles mudede This dream you speak about (absolute security), has been there from day one. In terms of American policy, what makes iraq today not iran of yesterday?

]]> charles mudede http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805177 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805177 News Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:34:23 -0800 Comment by Cato the Younger Younger It is all about the oil. The Kurds signed an oil deal with a Texas oil company this past week (Headed by one of Bush's pals). Bush needs chaos in Iraq to make money off the oil. If stability were to be established or if we left (enter Iran or Syria) then the oil/money pipeline would be cut off and Bush and his croneys get no money. Bush's pocket book gets fatter as long as Iraq remains a police state (and that is all it is) and can not really get it's shit together. If they did, Bush's croneys will not get the oil money.

Isreal was safer before we attacked Iraq. There is no one of sane rational mind who thinks this war has helped in Isreal's safety. (The little war last summer in case you would like an example)

]]> Cato the Younger Younger http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805191 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805191 News Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:45:32 -0800 Comment by Dianna Agree with Cato. Also, it's one great mess to later blame on the Democrats, along with the collapse of the economy, education, etc.

]]> Dianna http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805201 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805201 News Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:52:35 -0800 Comment by Original Andrew Either way, it's clear that Bush's hideous plan is to drop this fiasco in the lap of the next administration, and then blame them for "losing" the war in his speeches at his Fantastic Freedom Institute (aka the Bush School for Semi-Retarded Autocrats).

]]> Original Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805202 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805202 News Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:52:39 -0800 Comment by GJ @5Then why don't the Dems end the war and avoid inherting hell? I rember reading that in the Dem primaries before the last election cycle a lot of Iraq war vetrans wanted to run as dems to end the war, but the DNC went against them, and elected the Blue DOg Dems, who keep voting for this war.

]]> GJ http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805310 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805310 News Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:08:19 -0800 Comment by Grant Cogswell I don't know if what you said was true, C, but damn you sure said it beautifully.

]]> Grant Cogswell http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805314 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805314 News Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:22:57 -0800 Comment by Gomez Ahhh, gee! What does The Stranger\'s resident war monger Dan Savage think?

]]> Gomez http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805461 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/the_war_forever#c805461 News Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:02:31 -0800