Well Dan, you are a parent, so I would expect you to have morals. But only the folks taking your advice know whether it is any good or not.

First! (as they say on those idiotic Fox boards)

I love you, Dan.

Damn....almost.

What if you're a really confused shit-eating dog-fucker? Who else is going to tell you what to do?

someone who is tolerant of dog-fucking fecaphiliacs of course, duh. i don't want anyone trampling my freedom to screw my lab while taste testing its dropings

That must be kind of satisfying. I wish all my critics were pedophiles.

@1 - um, need I say it?

Britney Spears.

And you were saying?

Morals are very important. Most of the goyium are confused bags of throbbing passions with only toxic Christianity to guide them. As Jews we have the 613 Mitzvot to guide us.

Children have no sexual feelings, and the ancient Greek civilization was brought down by their pedaphilia. The age of consent in Sweden is 15 because Sweden is full of perverted goyium. No 15 year old should be able to have sex at all, let alone with an adult no matter how well developed the 15 year old is.

Dan Savage is the only Gay writer in Seattle willing to stand for morality. Every moral person is against 15 year olds having sex and farmyard kids touching their goats immorally. Only bondage sado masochism is moral sex, anything else is disgusting and perverted.

At first this didn't make sense to me. And then I scrolled down. Priceless.

@15 : "No 15 year old should be able to have sex at all, let alone with an adult no matter how well developed the 15 year old is."

Boy - you keep talking like that, Jerry Lee Lewis is gonna come a-stompin' in here and BLOW YOUR GODDAMN HEAD CLEAN OFF!!!

Sorry - @8, rather.

Yeah, and the implied snark is that gays are immoral. Which we aren't!

Middle-aged men who hanker for teens and even men in their twenties just gross the fuck out of me.

I want to say to them(though they wouldn't listen), "Hey, motherfucker. You're getting OLD and fucking a 22-year-old won't bring your youth back. Own it and move the fuck on."

I'm middle-aged and I stopped dating about 10 years ago. One of the many reasons why I stopped was because so many guys my age wanted someone younger...much younger....like, 25. It disgusted me enough to just want to be alone with my friends and my hobbies.

Abstinence is a moral choice for a twenty four year old man who wants to have sex with a nineteen year old. There is really no excuse for gay men having sex with a man ten years younger. It's disgusting and perverted and immoral.

I'm glad The Stranger is taking the moral high ground on this and telling Seattle's gay community that the only moral sex is bondage sado-masochism. The goyium are seething with dark urges and Judaism teaches us to be an illumination for the world. Demanding the goyium practice morality in their bedrooms is a good beginning.

Bauhaus - you seem to have it in your demented mind that the ONLY reason an older person might date a younger one is to fuck them.

I had a brief, fantastic affair with someone who was 20 years younger than me (and yes, they were quite legal, thank you very much) - and not BECAUSE they were 20 years younger than me, but because they were a wonderful person. I can think of about one instance where I even thought about our age difference at all (and that only came up because of a silly pop culture argument.) Excepting extreme cases like our esteemed attorney from Florida, age is a number, and each person is an individual, with their own positive and negative traits, regardless of how old they are. (and yes, I've also had relationships with people older than me.)

Good luck with your "disgusting" issues and being alone with your "hobbies", though.

The problem McKay might be alluding to is that "really confused" people don't react normally to moralistic advice. The concern might be that such advise seekers might react in ways that Dan might not be able to anticipate. For example, some people do not have the ego strength to accept criticism (especially with moral overtones) and when it is given they respond in self or other injuring ways. Dan is not a therapist. Dan is not responsible for these people's reaction. it is not his job to anticipate nor differentiate between those who can handle advice and those who can't. the result is that sometimes he gets it right, sometimes he doesn't. No big whoop. He hopes.

Wowza, wanna get together, watch Harold and Maude and go, "Awwwww..." together?

Of course, alternatively, McKay could be using his therapist no moralizing attitude to get into the pants of confused young gay adolescents.

Sure, Gitai - you bring the Space Rocks, I'll bring the Dentugrip. Or the other way around, whichever...

Malcolm McKay is a sex predator and a piece of shit. He's been pulling his "grooming" act on the emotionally vulnerable gay youth in Seattle since the early 90's and left plenty of victims in his wake, too embarrassed having been tricked into fucking a sick, manipulative, geriatric monster to come forward. Thank god the internet caught up with him and burned his ass. He's a sick fuck, a predator and deserves to be in jail for what he did to the youths under his watch (including a close friend).

Had I known then what was going on behind the scenes back then, I would have called the police on the bastard.

Dan appears to be having trouble differentiating between "having morals" and "moralizing". Yes, Dan Savage has a reasonably fine set of morals. He also indulges in a fair amount of tedious moralizing from time to time. It's hardly unfair to point that out.

One quick look in the dictionary would show that the meaning of being moralistic is more than just adhering to high standards.

Maybe Mr. McKay characterized Mr. Savage as "moralistic" because Mr. Savage is "moral." Unlike Mr. McKay.

"yeah, don't listen to dan, uh, come on over to my house instead. i'll give you the 411 (among other things)."
--mr. mckay

So ... do none of you really care that McKay has been preying on and grooming vulnerable gay youth for the last two decades? That seems a little more the issue than Dan's morality.

I had the same experiences with this guy (minus the Internet, of course) in the late 1980s, when I was underage. I was pretty sexually precocious, and I'm not convinced he scarred me for life -- but now I'm rethinking that a bit... And here I thought I was special. :)