Comments on Gay Love is Beautiful

You're missing an s in process.

This morning on the Today Show, they did a segment on this woman in Ohio who "forgot" her 2-year old in her hot car for 8 hours, and yep, she died and Ohio law is protecting her and not sending her to jail for negligence...You know, since it was a mistake and all...

Thanks for putting the freak show stuff *after* the cut, so I didn't have to read it. Much appreciated.

Why the "Gay Love is Beautiful" headline?

Uh, Big Sven, how did you know it was after the cut if you didn't read it?

I totally wanna do a short film about a gay guy who wakes up in bed next to a strange man and finds that he's accidentally driven to Canada and gotten gay married, and then two weeks later, as they're working everything out, the Canadian husband goes up to him all scared and shaken and holds out an adoption decree he found, just minutes before a baby is dropped off.

You may already know this but it bears mentioning that when you go through the Washington State foster parenting training program, the social workers make it quite clear that the odds are you will be investigated for a complaint and that is an expected part of the process; being straight or gay has nothing to do with it. Sometimes a parent or neighbor just wants to stir up trouble, or it may be legitimate.

In any case, they explain your rights and responsibilities upfront, which is the best way to go.

i b'lieve i sent dan that link last night. thanks per posting, m'sieur savage.

oh, gay people are definitely just as awful as straight people...

we just tend to be slightly better dressed when we're committing atrocities...

Personal experience with WA state CPS: I don't know why, but it seems government agencies are practically tailor-made to always do the wrong fucking thing when deciding what to do with families. Hundreds, maybe thousands of children have died because of bad decisions made in this state alone. Therefore, I say if you know some children are being abused, be a vigilante and kick some fucking ass. Getting the grossly incompetent government involved should be a last resort.
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As a Brit, I feel obligated to advise you on just one thing, Dan - you don't want to cite the Daily Mail as your source.

For anything.

Ever.

From Dan Savage:

If gay parents on average are any less likely to be abusive, that’s only because it’s harder for gay people to become parents—we can’t, as I’ve written, get drunk and adopt one night.

It is not harder for gay people to become parents. Forgive me if you are excluding lesbians by intending "gay" to only desribe males. Gay women, a.k.a. Lesbians, can easily become parents, without even getting drunk. They can be raped by men (hetero or otherwise) and still become moms.

It is a small point that I believe you understand, but still, being precise and accurate with language is necessary.

@12,

Um, ok, however the likelihood of that happening is much lower than of hetero couples accidentally getting pregnant. I read somewhere that 50 percent of pregnancies in the U.S. are unplanned. I'm sure that only a very small fraction are due to sexual violence. Consequently the number of lesbians impregnated due to rape is statistically insignificant.

Ugh. He physically, emotionally, and sexually abused several children for years, and all he gets is 4 years? And that's "at the top of the sentencing guidelines range?"

Well, at least YOU can adopt. Did you know that fat people are being turned away as adopters? But you probably think it is child abuse if a kid gets fat or is anywhere near fat parents. Well, my parents taught me how to start flame wars!!! hahaha! I taught myself that actually. And I'd probably be fat even if I grew up in your house, Dan! Anyway, you should thank your lucky stars that the only thing that is "weird" about you is that you are gay. Pshaw! Gay, big damn deal! I'm sorry. I know it is a big huge flaming deal. But, you are successful, intelligent, good looking, healthy, educated, privileged, monied, published, a father, a husband, not insane, man you should be jumping for joy at how fantastic your life is! I wish I was you! heh. No, I'm happy being me. I think my point that I never made in this comment was something like this: at least gay people like you with privilege out the ying-yang can adopt and have wonderful storybook lives some others of us are denied outright...I'm just saying, sometimes it isn't just about being gay. I mean yeah, we expect you to write about being gay, but can you write about any other perspective? I'm not meaning to be anti-gay here, I'm just wondering if you could possibly see other ways in which people are oppressed besides your own...yeah...that is what I was trying to say...I guess...whatever. it doesn't matter. it was a bad comment. ignore this.

keshmeshi @13,

True, pregnancies resulting from sexual violence are not the norm. My point is that while gay men wanting children must adopt, gay women are quite capable of becoming pregnant. They can decide to have sex with a male and become a parent. And in the extreme, it can even happen without their desiring parenthood. Dan makes no mention of this difference between gay men and women longing to become parents.

Three things:
a) How the hell is it that kiddy rapers only get 5 years?!?! I just read about some pot grower getting 15. The fuck????
b) Damn CPS workers are gullible.
c) How do we know the perps in the other two stories aren't gay? Flamboyant fedora-wearing waiter? Eh?

My bad. Hey Dan, I don't know if you read these comments, but I'm sorry I was such a bitch in my earlier comment. I don't know why I was criticizing you. I sometimes forget that there are still anti-gay people in the world. It just seems so ridiculous to me that I have trouble believing that being gay is still an issue. It is like people are still debating about whether or not the earth is round or flat. I mean it seems absurd that people would be against queer people. I know that these anti-gay people exist, but I just think they are stupid and I guess I ignore them or something, because all I really see are tons of beautiful sexually diverse people in the universe. Sorry for being bitchy. I think it was early in the morning too and I'm a grouch in the morning. All my love, :) kristin