Slog - Comments on Another Trygve http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve State Rep. Jamie Pedersen and his partner Eric welcomed their son last week, and I tossed up a post about the happy news--and the SGN's "Victory in Europe!" treatment of it--on Slog yesterday. Jamie and Eric chose the name Trygve for the kid, and their choice drew some comments. It's a cool name--hey, what boy won't want to be known as "Trigger"--but I've never encountered the name anywhere else before. Until late last night. I've been reading William Shirer's Berlin Diary. Shirer, of course, is the author of Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, a huge, sprawling book about... Copyright 2008 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:23:13 -0800 Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:31:13 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by New Yorker And don't forget Das Nummer Eins on the Nazi Berlinerzeitung Best Seller Liste:

1. Eugenics and You: A Love Story

]]> New Yorker http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c795975 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c795975 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:30:33 -0800 Comment by Michigan Matt I've never ever run into anyone who's heard of my middle name. Poor me.

]]> Michigan Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c795987 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c795987 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:41:31 -0800 Comment by Just John There seems to be a resurgence of Norwegian, Swedish, Irish and Celtic names in Seattle these days.

The days of John, Mike and Dave seem to be over -- at least for now. Move over for Kalen, Kielan, Torfinn, and Ryder.

]]> Just John http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c795997 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c795997 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:57:08 -0800 Comment by iwanttobealion Trygve B. Pedersen (born July 26, 1884 - died August 14, 1967) was a Norwegian sailor who competed in the 1920 Summer Olympics.

He was a crew member of the Norwegian boat Stella, which won the bronze medal in the 6 metre class (1907 rating).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trygve_Pedersen

]]> iwanttobealion http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c795998 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c795998 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:57:36 -0800 Comment by David http://lyrics.rockmagic.net/lyrics/police/synchronicity_1983.html#01

]]> David http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796003 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796003 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:02:50 -0800 Comment by elenchos There's a word for that -- when you notice an oddity that was always there, just because something called your attention to it. It's related to the psychological phenomenon where people think there's more accidents or babies born because the moon is full.

Understanding common fallacies and logical errors would make The Stranger a better paper. A less inaccurate paper, I mean. A less grossly inaccurate paper, I mean to say. Write a letter to "Ask Science," and learn all about it.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796005 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796005 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:05:27 -0800 Comment by Katia Roberts You've never heard of Trygve Seim? Shame.
Surely one of the greatest saxophone players alive today.

]]> Katia Roberts http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796012 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796012 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:20:34 -0800 Comment by Judah You know it's interesting: I'm reading The Rise and Fall for the first time this summer as well. Seems to be something a lot of people are suddenly looking at.

I suppose the ongoing collapse of the PNAC is bound to evoke those sorts of images in peoples minds.

]]> Judah http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796022 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796022 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:28:03 -0800 Comment by U Thant hey Dan, read some history: Trygve Lie, first secretary general of the United Nations, who ushered in the fine tradition of brilliantly named UNSGs, including Dag Hammarskjold, Boutros Boutros-Ghali, and, of course, myself.

]]> U Thant http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796024 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796024 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:30:10 -0800 Comment by Scandinavian Name By the way, it's "From Winde Verweht", translated as "Blown away by the wind"..."Vom Winde verwehlt" would translate as "The wind dialled a wrong number".

]]> Scandinavian Name http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796077 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796077 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:27:45 -0800 Comment by brappy Berlin Diary is great. It's worth reading, in my (twister) mind, about every year or so. I wish it was a longer book.

]]> brappy http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796091 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796091 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:38:04 -0800 Comment by Dean P If you're enjoying "Rise and Fall," (which is actually a pretty flawed work) and "Berlin Diary," you should read "End of a Berlin Diary." It recounts Shirer's travels in Europe at the closing days of the War.

The most memorable line, to me, was when he got to Nuremburg: "It is completely gone!"

]]> Dean P http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796094 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796094 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:40:19 -0800 Comment by Original Andrew I'd be pretty pissed at my parents if they gave me a name that few could pronounce on sight. I'm not that crazy about Andrew for that matter.

I used to work with a cute gal named Xochitl (pronounced Sawchee) and while it is a totally rad name, it just caused never ending problems and questions that you get really bored with answering over and over and over again.

]]> Original Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796122 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796122 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:06:52 -0800 Comment by KY. COL. of TRUTH Albert Speer (Hitler's favorite architect) wrote "Inside the Third Reich" - equally fascinating.

Memory poorly serves, but I recall on the foreleaf of Shirer's "Rise & Fall..." a quote by Goethe:

"Ah, the Germans - so estimable in the individual and so wretched in the generality."

ps: there must be 100s of Trygves running around Ballard and Poulsbo.

]]> KY. COL. of TRUTH http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796151 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796151 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:32:13 -0800 Comment by Greg At least they didn't name the kid Quisling.

]]> Greg http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796229 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796229 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:46:14 -0800 Comment by litlnemo Another one of the occasional indications that Dan isn't a Seattle native. ;) I'm about Dan's age, and when I was a kid there was still a strong Scandinavian influence here, so there were still Trygves (mostly older) and Oles and Bjorns all over the place. In Ballard you used to hear lots of the older ladies chatting with heavy Norwegian or Swedish accents. I think that's disappeared over the last 30 years as the immigrant generations have passed on.

]]> litlnemo http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796239 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796239 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:03:36 -0800 Comment by leukothea I went to St. Olaf College in Northfield, Minnesota. I knew a Trygve, as well as Nels, Lars, Rolf, and more Marins and Karins than could fit into a 10' x 10' room.

My favorite last name from that time of my life was "Schwinghammer." Schwing!

]]> leukothea http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796242 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796242 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:07:35 -0800 Comment by zoe kentucky The only Trygve I've ever known was my great-grandfather, a Norweigan who lived in Cleveland most of his life, who towards the end of his life said very little other than "uff da!"

I've entertained the idea of using Trygve for one of my (future) kids, actually. It's unusual without being ridiculously out there. It's really not a hard name to pronounce-- it's simply trig-vee.

]]> zoe kentucky http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796269 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796269 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:39:23 -0800 Comment by jenk The first Trygve I met was Trygve Lode, on the usenet group soc.singles (he hosts the group's webpage at http://www.trygve.com/singles.html). Soc.singles has significant overlap with soc.bi & alt.polyamory. I met one of my sweeties there, actually. :)

]]> jenk http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796400 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796400 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:51:52 -0800 Comment by lee wong Dan thinks Ballard is famous for taverns and the only reason he comments about a certain Trygve is because that certain Tryve had his picture in the SGN first.

Great name, second to Olaf for males in Ballard.

I live in Ballard, changing rapidly, all the old ladies mentioned above are dying off. Sounds flat around here now.

]]> lee wong http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796534 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796534 Life Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:25:28 -0800 Comment by Patrick "By the way, it's "From Winde Verweht", translated as "Blown away by the wind"...

Well, strictly speaking, it is "Vom (not "From") Winde Verweht".

"''Vom Winde verwehlt" would translate as "The wind dialled a wrong number".''"

That would be "Vom Winde Verwählt (not "verwehlt")", and a better translation of that would be "Misdialed by the Wind"

]]> Patrick http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796669 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c796669 Life Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:37:18 -0800 Comment by Scandinavian Name Well,I knew that :), but phonetically, there isn't much of a difference here between ä and e.

Sorry for the From Winde...typo there.

]]> Scandinavian Name http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c797271 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/another_trygve#c797271 Life Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:31:13 -0800