... grin ...

Oh, wait, suddenly you don't like it, huh?

Nice try, apostates.

gotcha, check.

"Yes, I'd say I'm about 55% sure that the statement is indeed correct."

secondly, john mccain has lost any rationale for running for president. what happened to the "straigh talk" express persona? i would never have voted for him in 2000, but at least he seemed authentic and honest. now he just seems pathetic. and old. really, really old.

Hey I wrote this this morning. Because I'm effing psychic.

Dan's also incorrect that the Constitution was drawn up by Deists. Jefferson was certainly a Deist, but he was fairly unique among delegates to the Constitutional Convention. The largest group of Founding Fathers were Episcopalians (54%), followed by Presbyterians (17%) and Congregationalists (11%). If you look at the lives of Decl of Indep signers like Adams (trained at Harvard and nearly became a minister) and Witherspoon (Presbyterian minister and president of what later became Princeton) you can see there were some very religious types among the larger group of "Founding Fathers."

That said, it's pretty clear there's little bias toward Christianity in how the document in drawn up and now good argument for saying what apparently 55% of the unwashed masses are claiming. McCain's doing precisely what Dan describes. Shame.

It's on a permanent vacation to Bullshitville.

"Episcopalians (54%), followed by Presbyterians (17%) and Congregationalists (11%)."

..they believe in god right? or a singluar one- they are deists- deists believe in a dieity.

And just because the religious beliefs of the founding fathers tended toward deist does not mean that they founded a christian nation.

there was no language in the constitution that says this either explicitly or implicitly. In fact in the Bill of Rights- or the first 10 amendments to the constitution (the first amendment specifically "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. "- they specifically deny any one particular religion from being established as the 'official' one.

The fact that 55% of the US population is semiliterate and is educated by the tv and has better idea than whatever strongly worded opinion they heard last does not give any strong argument for them being right- !!!

(from the Treaty of Tripoli 1796, Article 11:)

"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion..."

seems pretty clear to me...

I mean, 55% of Americans are drooling half-wits whose idea of fun consists of monster trucks and blowing the brains out of a deer. Are we ready to say that's typically American?

Just look to Israel, a nation founded on a religion of truth and justice for an example of how great the U.S. could be if only it would abandon Christianity.

The Stranger has been good about promoting the Israeli army as a model for the U.S. and demanding Jewish holidays be celebrated in Seattle's public spaces, we need to take it to the next step and remind each other to become more observant, study Hebrew, and send more money to Israel.