Religion Youth Pastor Watch
posted by on August 6 at 11:21 AM
A former youth pastor is charged with taking indecent liberties with a minor. Jason Gillespie, 26, taught and coached soccer at Southview Christian School in Iredell County. Detectives say he had an inappropriate relationship with a 15-year-old girl last school year.Eyewitness News tried to speak with Gillespie on Friday. He wouldn’t answer the door, but he could be seen moving his belongings out of his home near the church and school. Pastor Walter Wagner of Southview Baptist Church said he contacted authorities as soon as he heard about the allegations of misconduct. He said it came as a total shock to the staff and students at the school.
right, a shock.......
hmmm celebacy is not proving to be the healthiest idea...
why do we have so many retarded religious people in America..its embarressing.
Where the hell is Iredell County?
just wait till they're 17, pastor jr.
@1
Do you know ANYTHING about the church? Dan at least acknowledges he is completely ignorant of all thing church related in addition to being a coplete bigot. You could at least realize that only Catholic Priests take that vow.
ecce, I think 1 was referring to the idea that most Christians are celibate until married.
Oy! The Baptists! I can't believe they're allowed to have children and get married!
Every child deserves a youth pastor.
well, this guy was a soccer coach and teach as well. yes, no place is safe for your children.
sometimes i think that if the age of consent was lower parents would be more vigilant about who their children were interacting with.
Celibacy = Not Married
Chastity = Not Having Sex
So, for review: Chastity is not proving to be such a good idea for Christian-types, and everyone is Celibate before they are married.
What with the earlier and earlier onset of puberty in girls -- starting as early as seven, with onset of menses as early as nine or ten, shouldn't we be thinking about lowering the age of consent?
re: #9
Celibacy is not having sex. Chastity is not having sex with anyone inappropriate, i.e. anyone to whom one isn't heterosexually married.
No, Beep -- Celibacy is not being married. Chastity is not having sex at all with anyone ever including yourself.
The words have become confused over the years because they are so closely related in the Christian church laypersons and other have mixed their definitions. It's important to understand what celibacy and chastity mean to the people who espouse these lifestyle choices.
**celibacy**
1663, formed in Eng. from L. cælibatus "state of being unmarried," from cælebs "unmarried," from PIE base *kaiwelo- "alone" + lib(h)s- "living." Celibate first recorded 1829.
Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper
**chastity**
c.1225, "virginity, celibacy," from O.Fr. chastité, from L. castitatem "purity," from castus (see caste).
Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper
You can be Celibate and not be Chaste. You can't be Chaste without being Celibate.
@10,
Does earlier puberty equal earlier maturity? If my nieces are any indication, no, it doesn't. The purpose of age of consent laws is to protect the young and immature from the old and predatory. I see no reason to lower the age.
You are right Tacoma which makes # 1
and #5 wrong and ecce right ; )
@13: perhaps the young and immature need to be given a little more credit, and a little more freedom of choice. and perhaps the old and predatory are not always so old or so predatory. regardless, it seems that laws are not what will keep your kids "safe" anymore... if ever.
TacomaRoma @12 et al:
Both the New Oxford American Dictionary and the American Heritage Dictionary define celibacy as abstaining from both (Oxford) or either (AH) marriage and/or sex, with AH giving the no sex meaning higher placement.
As for chastity, it can be either no sex at all or no sex "with anyone inappropriate" (as beep @11 puts it) depending on context. Details will vary substantially from group to group.
And if celibate is used to mean not married, then of course you can be chaste and not celibate. Just because it's sad or freaky doesn't mean people don't do it.
infrequent @15:
Age of consent laws are an imperfect solution, no doubt. And let us shout it loud that good parenting is the first, best means of making sure teens are responsible about sex.
That said, there is no shortage of people who are in fact old(er) and predatory, and there is a legitimate need to deter them before the fact. We need to be able to credibly say, "Man, you will go to jail if you tap that ass!"
fnarf, you're joking, right? You're not actually suggesting that grown men should be able to poke 14 and 15 year olds, merely because they may be biolgically fertile, are you?
I do believe he was being sarcastic and if we was not I will slap him upside da head later.
TacomaRoma @12:
I forgot to mention before, there is a perfectly good word for remaining unmarried while retaining the freedom (if not necessarily the opportunity) to indulge in sex: bachelorhood.
man, there are a bunch of bad teachers out there. some seem worse than others. here's a random link:
http://badbadteacher.com/2007/08/02/adam-albrecht-sentenced/
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