Comments on The Jackass Mormon Vs. The Dieting Christian

For me the real news is the 40% reduction in Republican turnout: 14,304 down from 23,685 in 1999 (the last Straw Poll; there wasn't one in 2003, because the nomination wasn't contested). If Republicans are turning out in Iowa, they're in trouble. I hope Huckabee does get the nomination; he'll get beat worse than Goldwater or McGovern. It might destroy the Republican Party.

I don't think that Huckabee will ultimately get the nomination, but I think he'll get some prominence and a credible platform: the last thing this election needed was the Religious Right finding a spokesman within the Republican Party. I was hoping they'd be forced to form another party (The Christies?) when their party froze out Huckabee or Brownback from the start. This Huckabee 2nd-place thing will give him just enough credibility to make him dangerous.

the "christians"?

i think the word you are looking for is fundamentalists, but congrats on being brave enough to show your religious intolerance.

You're afraid of the Religious Right finding a spokesman in the Republican Party? Get out your time machine, you need to get back to 1968. The Religious Right IS the Republican Party. The primaries are about pandering or not pandering to the nuts.

Yes, mike @3. Paul Constant @2 is NOT showing religions intolerance. "Christian" is a perfectly good and respectable word, which has been hijacked by the Nazi-politico-pseudo-religious people that you prefer to call "fundamentalists". The word "Christian" in connection with Republican politics, or most other politics, refers to these pasty-faced Talibaners.

I'm filled with religious intolerance. It's okay, Paul. You're not alone.

Fnarf, I think that the one thing you could say about the Republicans this time was that it wasn't a Christ-fest: Giuliani can barely speak the name of the Lord without bursting into flames. The Christians (and, yes, Mike, I feel like saying Christians in conjunction with a story about Republicans is enough of a modifier; if you're offended by that as a Christian, you need to do something about the hijacking of your religion) were feeling frustrated this time because of a lack of a voice, what with all the divorcees and abortion-lovers and Mormons. Granted, presidential candidates--of both parties--will always have to bow before crucifixes, but the people who put Bush in office (besides Diebold execs) were without a solid, consolidated voice until yesterday. I think that's just changed.

But Paul, that's not going to be enough. The kooks can't elect a president out of their own; all they can do is tilt an otherwise tight contest. This isn't a tight contest. The Reilgious Right at this point has two choices: they can go with their guy Huckabee and get creamed, or they can back whatever other miserable cur get nominated, and get beat by less.

If you want to permanently split the Republican Party, let them pick Huckabee. Then the kooks will be cast out, and they can go off into the wilderness where they belong, and stop poisoning American politics. The remaining Republicans will be a fringe party, but maybe they can build themselves back up into proper Americans, and we'll be back in a situation where electing any of them won't be a disaster for the United States. There's no chance at all of that happening until the kooks get their brains beat out.

That's the way I see it, anyways. I'd like to see Pat Robertson get the R nomination myself.

Fnarf, I think we are agreed, sir. I also think that we should form the Northwest Chapter of Pat Robertson for President. I'll bring the Doritos to our first meeting!
Mr. Poe, I thank you for being my partner in religious intolerance. There will be Doritos waiting for you at the PR08 Headquarters, located in scenic SeaTac.

Fox News is ignoring Ron Paul:
Fox News Censors Straw Poll Results

I'm not quivering like Paul is, but he does have a point.

There's still over a year before the election. There's plenty to hope to fear in between.

Things we don't expect at all are going to hatch out and really change things for Election 2008, just like they kinda have almost every election in U.S. history before.

Yeah, Ron Paul is gonna get Bill Bradley'ed.

So Huckabee took second. Whoop-di-do. Only 19% of Republicans are happy about their choices, and given the minuscule size of the sample, I don't think it's all that representative of the party as a whole. I have a pretty good feeling that come Election Day, no matter who gets nominated, lots of Republicans will stay home and console themselves with thoughts about how it's good to be in the opposition.

for some here - this is mis placed feel good day

wait for the anti Hilary push - you think they are going to sit home and read the Bible?

political never never land at Slog

by the way, Washington R's already wanted Pat for pres, a few years back, not so stranger

long ways to the election and I do not think the cabal will cede power easily

but fnarf thinks it is over - well - by the way, the fundies will vote for Romney over Hilary

As a hold you nose at many elections, but vote, progressive Democrat, I know the feeling

The Huckabee sort-of win is interesting, but you're "scared" of him? If he won the Republican nomination, I'd dance a wee jig. No way that guy's electable.

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Score! We all know what Doritos do!

Romney will be the nominee - think about a campaign where Hilary's secret life is on video and made public 8 weeks out - by former secret service agents ...

He is squeaky clean, good looking with five sons to prove his masculinity/virility. Same wife, nice potential first lady, no infidelity.

And he will have ALL the money he can spend. Corporate America and mainstream folk will fund him against Hilary.

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That's why a Clinton nomination is suicide for the democratic party. Her only hope of winning is against a chump like Huckabee.

I think I might have stopped caring. Politics is starting to bore me.

Corporations are going to fund the candidate that will help them the most. It will all depend on the economy. If the economy is in the trash, Hillary will win and get funded, unless the GOP nom talks A LOT about improving the economy and can achieve the Herculean task of convincing corporations to do so.

But corporations usually support a candidate with experience over the other, Dem or GOP.