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Officer: Well, you’re not being truthful with me. You’re not being truthful with me, Senator. I’m real disappointed in you right now… .
Has anyone figured out who gave the story to Roll Call to begin with?
I like that cop.
Wow...I'm normally a bit put-off by the confidence of police. But, it was impressive how this Cop didn't blink in the face of a U.S. Senator.
There was something really sad and pathetic about that testimony. I really pity the ass hole hypocrit Senator. But then again, the real victim is that poor cop who has to hang around in a public toilit and bust closet cases. Mike Rowe has got to be on THAT dirty job!
Wow. Two VERY cool customers: one with the unshakeable conviction that he is making the world a better place, more orderly and decent, without regard to station or privilege; the other, so practiced at lying into microphones as one of the operators of the system that is ravaging this world and pushing humanity toward its doom that he can maintain his demeanor even as he watches everything he has built for himself burning like a castle in his mind's eye. He is to be envied. How could he have expected the higher and infinitely more profound ecstasy that awaited him in that bathroom stall?
It'd be funnier if the guy sounded even more like Frances McDormand in Fargo.
If you imagine that the Senator is totally innocent (which seems unlikely) this would be insanely creepy ... plain old inquisition tactics.
Inquisition? Hardly. These are standard interrogation techniques and well within the law. I think this cop did his job very well.
I don't know folks. I can't stand larry Craig for his political views and would love to see him go. But if I were a juror I'd be hard pressed to see evidence beyond a reasonable doubt here about his intentions. The senator is a cool customer and has had years of experience. I just don't know. The cop didn't convince me.
..."that he can maintain his demeanor even as he watches everything he has built for himself burning like a castle in his mind's eye."
@5 - that was beautiful.
God. Craig is so pathetic - I have to keep reminding myself that he's an anti-gay senator I'd love to see expelled, otherwise you just start to feel sorry for the guy, skulking around bathrooms because he hates himself and trying desperately to lie to the police.
You guy should start running his voting record with these posts.
Alright, this guy deserves everything he has coming to him. But charged with a crime for some strange bathroom stall pick up dance with a consenting adult, that's pure bullshit to me.
Hey, did anyone hear about the Attorney General's resignation this week?
@12, I agree with you, the Senator is a piece of shit but a crime for what he did? I think that is a bit much. It does shift the media attention though? Oddly with liberal talk radio? hmmmmmm.....
@13, LOL, I know, interesting how this "Broke" right after Gonzo resigned and there is no one left in the justice department. Me thinks the GOP is doing a huge purge of the party of anyone they think could be gay. I would expect a few more of these cases to come out over the next few weeks. The party is probably hoping that by next year voters will forget about these "indescrections" by the time the next terrorist attack is allowed to happen by the administration.
Never underestimate the GOP EVER!! No matter the bumbling mistakes they make they are dangerous and I think use that bumbling around for their own purposes.
Craig should be out of the Senate for his effed up political views, not for soliciting sex with a consenting adult. The interrogation techniques may be "standard" but the problem is that Craig didn't have a lawyer and was trying so hard to make this thing "go away" that he plead guilty. He (and many other defendants) believe the police when the officer tells them that as soon as they plead guilty it will all be over and then they can go home. Of course, Craig is much more sophisicated (sp?) than other defendants but one can see how some defendants plead guilty when they are innocent.
It's very interesting to listen to this as opposed to reading the text. I think the tone of both participants gives it a lot more texture.
The cop seems like a decent guy, he's far less abrasive than I've heard cops be. (He also sounds really young, like 23).
However the cop is also operating from his perspective...the "I do this all the time and see no problem with my job." He caught someone "breaking the law" as the cop is told to enforce it. The cop himself is not in a position to question the bullshitness of what he was asked to do.
I really do think it was entrapment. The cop did encourage and solict the attention in order to garner an arrest. He's just following orders and, as he says on the tape, every ELSE he's caught doing this has immediately fessed up.
Neither the cop nor the Senator are fully aware of all the forces that are in place while they're interacting.
I don't put the cop on high moral ground but I also fully understand the Senator's position. He was lying but he was also being faced with something by someone he never should have had to answer to. Meanwhile the cop is like "I can't believe you are sitting there lying to me when we both know what just happened."
Of course Craig was going to lie and the cop really shouldn't have expected the Senator not to. He had more to lose than the other people the cop brought in.
The cop is great, actually. It sounds like he knows what he's doing. And his disappointment in the Senator's lies feels real.
Larry Craig is a lying sack of shit and deserves all the crap coming his way.
BUT, the police officer is a total and complete ASSHOLE who SOLICITED sex from another adult by tapping his foot on the floor. This is pure and fucking simple entrapment. And is it a crime to bump someone's foot under the stall? Is it a crime to swipe your fingers under the stall?
I'm conflicted because I hate HATE Larry Craig, but I loathe LOATHE the fucking police officer for ENTRAPPING people.
To those who would call it "entrapment"
Entrapment is when an officer compels you to do something you would not otherwise do.
Clearly, Craig went to the bathroom for just the purpose for which he was arrested--he was looking for action.
Entrapment helps make our communities safer. In Seattle the bar Pony has sex holes in the men's bathroom stalls. If Seattle Police are reading this, please send your best entrapment officers to the bar Pony and arrest some men there and force the bar to remodel it's men's restrooms to make them safe for straight men like my boyfriend.
When we go out for drinks, my boyfriend should not be forced to look at gay men's erections. If it takes police entrapment to make our community safe then like Dan Savage, I'm all for entrapment.
I'm guessing you're joking. Otherwise -- WTF? If I don't want to see straight people making out, I'll avoid Belltown. Likewise, if your boyfriend is afriad of dick -- DON'T take him to Pony of all places!
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