City The Blue Angels
posted by August 2 at 10:58 AM
onIn our November 1, 2001 election endorsement issue (we undressed the candidates that year—completely NSFW), city council candidate Michael Preston weighed in with one of my favorite quotes we’ve printed over the years:
Stranger: The Blue Angels. Totally cool or totally uncool?Michael Preston: “The Blue Angels should not be able to fly over our city.”
Comments
they make me feel like a kid again...im so excited to see them!
Angels kill.
They've already drowned out all other noise around my house three times today, and my dog is pissed off and nervous. I hate them so much.
I love the Blue Angels. Great display of flying prowess..:) I look forward to it every year. Its fun to be buzzed..:)
YEAH, I hate them too!
(note to Blue Angels: I will stop hating you if you take me for a ride)
I woke up this morning TERRIFIED. TERRIFIED. I hate these fuckers. What the HELL.
Makes me feel uncomfortable in my own house. Keep it over the water, please. Even if the odds are not likely I would be killed in an accident I don't like the lack of control with supersonic jets "blasting" right over the top of my house. I agree with Michael Preston's comments.
They've been buzzing my work all day. I hate them so much! And yeah, this is probably just a repeat of last year's thread on this topic, but whatever. They suck. I can't imagine how Vietnam vets (or Iraqi refugees) must react.
I consider the Blue Angels the equivalent of militaristic porn. They are all about making the US military look cool and sexy and exciting, divorced from the real context of what fighter planes and pilots do (which is kill people). They are a waste of money (can't we think of something better to do with assets worth $28 million+ each?). I wonder if all the people who like them would like it if they were permanent fixtures over the city, flying every single day. I bet it would get pretty old pretty quickly. Why not just buy the movie Top Gun and a massive home theater system, so you can do this whenever you want in the privacy of your own home?
I hate them too! There is absolutely nothing interesting to me about the Blue Angels. Plus, it causes unnecessary traffic delays (I-5 northbound is backed up from 520 all the way to Boeing Field right now). Glad I don't have anywhere to be, but I feel bad for the people stuck in unnecessary traffic.
I watch them pass and hope with all my heart that they will crash into each other, creating a deadly $100 million fireworks display above our city. Each navy trained pilot a charred ruin, which is what they want after all.
Anyone know how much fuel these death machines use each day?
Yeah, I am all for porn but these things are ridiculous. When I want to be reminded of Kenny Loggins I go watch Yacht Rock. I don't need Goose and Maverick shaking the windows of my office. I think we should find out where the people who fly these things live and gather hundreds of people with leaf blowers and turn them on and off randomly throughout the day. Payback!!!
Marlene Deitrich, right?
Nice calves AND thighs.
I don't mind them all that much... nor do I find them exciting. Woo. Planes. Oh Em Gee.
I just wish they'd stop flying over my office. I know what they are, but every single time they go overhead a bunch of the people in my office turn to look out our window. People! If the noise was caused by planes passing over head the first five times, how much you wanna bet the sixth time was caused by planes too?
Pardon the noise, it is the sound of freedom.
YEEHAW!!
HATE. HATE. HATE them.
I'm in my second pair of underwear today. Somebody other than me is going to have to pay for the first pair.
Just like clockwork, the old women come out of the woodwork every summer to complain about the Blue Angles or the Hydros or the fireworks.
Wow, where is all this hate coming from? You'd think the Blue Angels pilots were out on non-show days personally bombing orphanages and then showing at the impact sites with silverware and bibs.
Sure the traffic is annoying, but is the once-a-year Sea Fair any worse than Mariners/Sea Hawks/Sonics rushes that regularly clog up the commute home?
@7 doesn't like the "lack of control," but from a safety perspective, how is it different from living under SeaTac flight paths all year round?
The one legitimate complaint I see here is the noise. Even there, the vitriol on display seems far out of proportion with the actual problem.
Ya, the noise and the traffic sucks, but they *are* kinda cool to watch... My only beef with 'em is the Goddamn waste of valuable resources, financial and otherwise.
Why the fuck do we STILL waste money on this shit?!
I guess I'm probably the only person here who finds this statement funny.
If all it takes to make you wake up TERRIFIED (TERRIFIED!) is a big mysterious booming noise in the morning, you're pretty much comic relief for a universe where so many other people are awakened by the sound of actual threats to their health and safety. Not that the sound of fighter jets isn't a harbinger of doom for plenty of people, but it's pretty fucking low on the list of things someone in Seattle should be concerned about.
I vote no on the Blue Angels.
I woke up this morning GRATEFUL. GRATEFUL that I don't have any business on the eastside today, 'cause that traffic is fucking awful! And hey, at least we don't live in some war zone where the planes are actually deploying weaponry at things.
Multiple supersonic jets packed with explosive fuel and flying in close formation over a densely populated area is a ridiculously bad idea.
i worked until 2 a.m. last night. i just wanted to sleep in today. why won't they let me sleep in? why are people still impressed by this bullshit. if you like this crap so much, join the fucking navy or whatever, and take your damn blue angels with you. fuck the blue angels, there i said it.
It's Seafair weekend, so cue up the sad sack sloggers with their whining and Kucinichesque pontifications.
Here's the deal: we no longer have a draft, so the armed forces have to recruit. Personally, if I'm being taxed to support a recruiting budget, I'd rather see the Blue Angels than pay for more lying-sack-of-shit recruiters in every strip mall. And while we're at it, maybe we can find a way to recruit a commander-in-chief with a clue.
I'd eat my words if a bystander was ever hurt or killed, but I look forward to our few days with the Blue Angels every year. You can't beat their combination of technical ingenuity, agility, and raw power. Love 'em. And if all it takes to tip someone toward joining the military is an air show, well, I imagine they lack sound decision-making skills to begin with.
As opposed to multiple subsonic jets packed with (far more) explosive fuel and flying in high frequency over a densely populated area?
There's an element of risk, of course. It's miniscule, in keeping with the entertainment/recruiting nature of the event. As a community and as individuals, we take a variety of risks every day, most of them far greater but all in measured proportion to the benefit they provide.
It is neither possible nor desirable to live in a cocoon.
I was waiting to hear the sound of a building collapsing, you know? I just think it's in really really poor taste to have these fuckers taking glory spins over our city when there's no point to it. There's no need for it. We shouldn't be simulating the noises of war, nor should we be tolerating such a simulation.
@29, "simulating the noises of war"?
Here's the thing: Airplanes fly. Fighters fly fast, and do crazy roller coaster things like tight turns and loops. The ability to fly is a nigh-universal human desire that touches most of us in early childhood, years before we have the faintest clue what war or death are about.
Jets are loud because they're fast, loud because they have power. Not power over other people, but power over gravity and air, the forces that tether us more mortal creatures to the ground.
Finally, knowing a person is riding that jet, not just flying but displaying extraordinary skill at it, lets people on the ground cultivate the hope or fantasy that they can fly, too.
Complain about the noise or criticize the use of resources if you will, but can you really be so clueless about why airshows appeal to people?
@19 I purposely don't live directly under Seatac's flight paths and I would like to opt out of the Blue Angels flying literally blasting over my roof causing risk to myself and ear damage to a 3-year-old. Oh, wait I was never given an option. I think some people don't get it because they are sitting at work or far removed from the planes but these things feel like they are literally attacking in my home and I don't like it.
If I don't like to ride the "Scrambler" at Fun Forest should I be forced to ride it?
How are they any different than Nascar?
Touring @31, when airplanes crash, they don't always hit the ground along their intended flight path.
That said, you can opt out of the Blue Angels flying over your house. Just as you purposely don't live under SeaTac's flight paths, you could purposely not live in a city that has an annual airshow.
Or you could acknowledge that you choose to live where you do for whatever reasons you have (job, family, whatever) and get a little perspective. Anywhere you live involves compromises. Some things you can change (say lobbying the city for better transportation and police); others you'll have to accept as the will of the larger community (like our football stadium). If the have-to-accept-'em things are intolerable to you, then for your own sake it's time to move.
@28/30
"It is neither possible nor desirable to live in a cocoon."
Who is in a cocoon? The people who are thrilled by the Blue Angels because they're FAST and POWERFUL and cool - and don't give them any thought past that? Or the people who object to them for a multitude of reasons?
Or maybe hearing the Blue Angels and, YES, their simulated noises of war, is a good fucking reminder of how lucky we are that for US it doesn't hold the immediate threat and terror that it would in Baghdad. Unfortunately, I would wager that 75% of the people observing the Blue Angels never think about what those jets were actually made to do, how much the entertainment is costing in a)physical materials to build the planes, b)fuel cost to fly here from their home base and around and about over the city over and over, c)man power, d)lost productivity all over the city from people stopped in traffic, re-routed, pissed off IN their offices. Maybe I have a jaded view of my fellow Americans - I hope I'm wrong.
Personally, what I'M thrilled about is going out of town this weekend so that I will miss most of it - I'm just sad I couldn't go two days sooner. I already have enough liberal bleeding-heart agony as it is, thank you - I don't need the Blue Angels' reminder.
Ok, the phrase "simulated noises of war" is just asinine. The only accurate word in it is "noises."
Now that that's off my chest, of course most people watching a Blue Angels show don't think about air raids in Baghdad (or more accurately Afghanistan), because that's not the point. (And if it was the point, I'd join the people objecting.)
It takes 3 days to convert a Blue Angels F-18 into something capable of combat. They're not exactly "death machines" prowling our skies with menace.
Neither, the cocoon doesn't exit. You missed the point of my post @28
You apparently think the problem with people who enjoy the airshow is that they're unable or unwilling to see any context. I submit the real issue is that you're able to only 1 context, and none other.
They range, for me, between "shut the fuck up" to "I wish you'd crash into the space neadle", which I'm usually ashamed of.
But I'd totaly be a fan if they were hooked up with lazer tag shit and had an awsome night show over Seattle. And maybe,like, blackhawks could hover over the city with giant speakers blaring the Flight of the Valkrie. That would be soooo awesomo!
Skrew the Sonics we should put all that money towards that.
I totally get the insurgent thing when the effing jets are around.
What a waste of gas.
So...was it, in fact, Marlene Dietrich?
What a waste of air.
By that, I meant the people that have posted some of the stuff here should not be using air. What a bunch of ungrateful, self centered...
You people are nothing but a bunch of pussys. The Blues kick ass, don't like them, move to cuba you commie fucks.
Marks post is certainly correct, this thread is just asinine. Once a year we get to see this.
Don't like it, move back to Kalifornia!
Comments Closed
In order to combat spam, we are no longer accepting comments on this post (or any post more than 14 days old).