Slog - Comments on Joel Connelly, Chicago Fan http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan Joel Connelly's column in the PI the other day sang the praises of the Savage hometown and its political ways. The Brother has often said to me that he'd gladly trade Chicago's corruption--where at least things get done--for Seattle's Deep Process paralysis, where anything worth doing gets talked to death and then not done anyway. But the costs of corruption are real: high property taxes, a police force riddled with members who consider themselves above the law, and organized crime (just one example of the overlap of these things: a former Chicago Chief of Detectives is serving time in Federal... Copyright 2008 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 08:59:11 -0800 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:08:10 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Pensioner Seattle had a phase of corruption (until Chris Bayley and his crew cleaned things up). Right now out here in the upper left of America we've got politicians who reflect our values. And nothing's better than that!

]]> Pensioner http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c779429 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c779429 Politics Thu, 09 Aug 2007 08:57:04 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Nice catch on the beanbag quote.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c779500 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c779500 Politics Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:19:05 -0800 Comment by Original Monique Ahh, nothing like a little corruption to spice up local politics. Seattle might aspire to "big city" status, but alas, I don't think we have nearly enough elected criminals.

]]> Original Monique http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c779534 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c779534 Politics Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:24:22 -0800 Comment by Algernon Connelly did correctly point out that in Chicago they know how to deploy the police. Here we have cops getting lap dances while thugs hang at 3rd and Pike. In Chicago, police would swarm the area.

]]> Algernon http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c779888 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c779888 Politics Thu, 09 Aug 2007 10:47:22 -0800 Comment by Chi-lover Nope, I'd still prefer Daley. Chicago looks better than it has in years and it's all Daley's doing. Our snake in pussy's guise Mayor is bent over by developers and able to hide it all behind an endless string of YEAH/NAY propositions done and undone by the hoi polloi. While Seattle is still "considering" whether it's a big city, it's got BIG city problems. And I don't buy this "let's think about the issues." It's just pure passive aggressive NIMBYism, wearing a hemp t-shirt.

]]> Chi-lover http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c779918 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c779918 Politics Thu, 09 Aug 2007 10:58:27 -0800 Comment by Boomer in NYC Corruption, as CF (I think) points out, doesn't necessarily negate progress--and while I love and miss Chicago, I'd still rate New York higher in terms of actually getting things done more or less legitimately.

Besides that--what the fuck is going on with the el? Last time I was in Chicago, the whole system seemed to be falling apart.

]]> Boomer in NYC http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c779981 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c779981 Politics Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:26:43 -0800 Comment by Real City The El is NYC's subway, only above ground. You claim to be from NY - have you ever ridden that shittube?

Your mayor would rather spend his time worrying about strip clubs and nightclubs than a goddamned decrepit viaduct or daily shootings in Pioneer Square. Oh, and nice transit system.

And crooked cops? I'm glad to know Seattle has none of those. Type Seattle+cops into google and see what you come up with.

]]> Real City http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c780025 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c780025 Politics Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:43:08 -0800 Comment by wf Connelly is just one of many Democrats who don't believe in democracy anymore. Hence why he adores Teddy Roosevelt the imperialist.

]]> wf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c780058 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c780058 Politics Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:59:15 -0800 Comment by chi type @ 5: Yeah, that's because the only people Daley cares about pleasing are tourists and developers. Those of us who live here and want to say, take the CTA or own a house can go fuck ourselves. But CF is right, he ain't going nowhere. Just like the rest of America Chicagoans like our leaders cavalier and condescending.

]]> chi type http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c780485 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/joel_connelly_chicago_fan#c780485 Politics Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:08:10 -0800