Why not "being mean"?
These don't sound like grownups. Real people get less and less likely to go to meetings like this every day.
That's a *qualification* for being president. The last president we had who didn't lie was Jimmy Carter, which hardly constitutes an advertisement for truth in high places.
Were they wearing suits like grownups?! Kidding. But isn't lying about certain things grounds for impeachment? Blowjobs - no. Intelligence used to justify a war - yes. It's sort of like when Tony Snow claimed that Alberto hadn't done anything wrong. It would take 15 minutes to explain the nuances of his transgressions, but "asshole liar" sums it up nicely.
i'm with fnarf. if you're going to go for the zinger you have to follow it up with a thought out response that details your view.
"lying [pause: wait for applause] George Bush has violated... reasons reasons reasons..."
He deserves whatever crap is thrown his way.
He was in Bagdad for less than 48 hours and very little of that outside of the green zone.
Filet and fry him....we dems don't have time to put up with shit like this.
But, that's pretty much the opposite of a classic "zinger", which by definition has to be short, pointed, and brutal. Anything more than about four words may be a better response in terms of providing argumentative proofs, but a zinger it is not.
In this case, "um, lying", while not particularly articulate, certainly came pretty close to fitting the above definition.
And this, Jack Jett, is precisely why the GOP will never be counted completely out of the game, so long as we continue to eat our own based on their not falling 100% into lock-step with some particular constituency's ideological dogma.
Okay, Baird was duped, and took a faulty stance as a result. At least give him the opportunity to see the error in his thought-process before calling for his head, because the likely alternatives aren't necessarily going to be any better, and you'll just end up with someone who will eventually exhibit a 2% non-compliance on some other issue that will have the "true believers" calling for their head the second they fail some single-issue specific litmus-test.
Better yet, can somebody explain to me why he should not be impeached? Do we the people have to explain to establishment Dems why Bush should be impeached, when more books are going to be written about Bush then Hitler? Impeachment is off the table Nancy Pelosi apologists, Iraq war apologists, we need a draft fucking liberals: the stranger crew is just a bunch of stellar human beings that have us the American people’s interests at heart. Thank you for being the informed media this planet needs. I hear the Neo-cons really like Hill Clinton now, and she is spouting off on how the surge is working: surprise, surprise.
Yadda Yadda Yadda.
Lots of verbiage, but still no impeachment.
Lesser men have hung for less.
@9: And lesser men are sometimes hung...(as in hung like a horse) sorry, couldn't resist...hehe. I know it is stupid. I shouldn't even post this. I don't care. I'm going to live life on the wild side and say stupid things all the time!!!
Being there, the little "Impeach" sidetrack meant something slightly different to me. I detected it in the tone, and the look on peoples faces. To me it meant "DO SOMETHING!", not necessarily a direct call for impeachment, per se, rather a plea for action. People are exhausted with this administration, and they are frustrated.
So Rep Baird decided to "do something" alright. Baird is not a neophyte. He didn't merely change his mind, he came out with a hard sell and partisan talking points, and his constituents wanted nothing to do with it.
@10 - Kristin you shouldn't post when you're drunk.
Admittedly, that would really impact your posting, but hey ...
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