*pulling hair*

I have found while listening to the liberal radio shows that they are starting to sound just like the conservative talkers except on the other extreme. And just look at Slog as an example; the left is starting to no longer allow civil discourse or reasoned debate amongst itself any longer.

Everyone is attacking everyone and they respond by attacking. My advise, sit back and just go with the flow. Nothing will change. It will only get worse.

It is no longer passion; it is blind ambition in a world controlled by "gotcha" politics and seek and destroy media.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Ask Dan Savage about it; he referenced the last line in the title of one of his books.

That's *awesome*!

What's problematic is that very often people aren't known for the substance of their convictions, but for having convictions at all. We tumble into the cult of personality with such people, forgiving them when they are wrong and overtly-celebrating them when they are right, without really pondering the issues beyond the personalities expressing them. Think Ann Coulter--and there are certainly others.

He didn't break me. I'm just being a goof. #2 & 3 aren't meant for you to understand, anyway. Kind of like most Mudede posts.

http://dir.salon.com/story/comics/boll/2002/11/14/boll/index.html

I'm really disappointed about that. I imagined you stamping your foot and flinging your arms in the air in baffled fury and it was BEAUTIFUL.

regards

also, the conviction to cheat black voters might be stronger than the conviction not to cheat black voters because the nature of a conviction is in itself bad. bad begets bad.

it's easy to go into a war, it's much harder to get out of one. it's easy to join the army, it's much harder to get out of it. conviction is easy, which is why those who care least about humanity resort to it.

The goi are agaist the war but for the occupation. Or they were for the war and they are for being against the war. It's typical muddled goi mind.

Din, Gevurah are loose in our time. We name our Israeli tanks Merkava after the prophet in our Torah and goi don't bother to look up the implications of the name. The goi have no conviction for anything other than Dan kvetching about potty putz pulling.

Charles you and Dan perform Tikkun Olam with every sentence you write confusing the goi. It's wonderful work and you have the perfect mind to keep Din -Gevurah flowing in Israel while America sleeps. Mazel Tov!

You are such an idiot.

Emerson 1803-1882
Yeats 1865-1939

If you flip-flop to try to make voters happy, you are just as bad as someone who ignores the facts and sticks with their conviction no matter what. Flip-flopping is good if there is a reason behind it - such as admitting you were wrong when new information shows up. Conviction can also be good if you are standing up to people who don't (or won't) understand a what is going on, but you hold to your position because the facts support you even if the masses don't.

In short, reality (and dealing with it) is more important than weather you stick to your convictions or flipp-flop.