Haha ... Portland always reminds me of one of those annoying younger siblings. Always shouting "Mommy, look what I can do, Mommy, Mommy, look what I can do..." over and over again.

Portland is always ten years behind Seattle. I moved to Seattle from Boston to work as a software project manager and I loved the condo selection in Seattle. Portland has a bunch of moldy seventy year old houses. Yuck!

It'll be a century before Portland is as good as Seattle.

every city needs to pick on a smaller city to hide the flaws within itsef.

@2

Except for light rail.

Also except for land use regulations.

Heh, Bellevue. I think New Yorkers would argue that your logic is provincial.

If tall buildings were a hallmark of livability, Portland would be the lesser of the three cities. But it ain't.

Charles, your logical fallacy is assuming that PDX has any desire whatsoever to compete against SEA & VAN.

PDX knows better. PDX has no desire to compete. That's why PDX will always kick ass.

@8

Saying "PDX" a lot does NOT make you, or your city, cool.

"PDX" was almost called "Boston". The coin just flipped the wrong way.

(If the myth is true.)

I aspire to be a new yorker one day!

Portland is great! A city with intelligent city planners and a government not in thrall of the fucking developers...

and nude strippers!!

Uh, @2 have you been to Portland lately? They are putting Seattle to shame when it comes to condos. Seattle is building some really, really unattractive structures and Portland is pumping out some totally beautiful buildings. The Pearl District is one of the most amazing neighborhoods I have ever seen. I can't wait to see what Portland looks like in 10 years. If Seattle keeps this shit up I'll be down there!

I used to rag on Portland a lot... but after just two weekends there with my Portland-area-native girlfriend I have to say it seems like an awesome place.

This may sound dorky/scarily-adultish, but it also seems like a nice place to raise a family.

@13 - you need to stop hanging out on Capitol Hill and get to the other neighborhoods where we have more interesting condos.

It's jut like a Seattle without Microsoft, Boeing, and UW. Just like Seattle is a smaller SF without Silicon Valley and a rapid transit system and a decent nightlife.

@ 12:

You forgot to mention the booze!

Nude strippers AND booze!

@ 12 and 17

...and cheap steak dinners to go along with the strippers and booze!

I love PDX

I love Seattle and Portland.

If Portland had a drink spilled on it by some just-don't-care dickthwap, I would not care for that. Not one bit.

I love both Seattle and Portland and it is true that some insane out-of-towners are paying megabucks for the new condos in the Pearl district in Portland. Well, I am just guessing it is out-of-towners. Who else would buy a studio condo for over $200,000 in Portland with no parking!?! I mean, maybe that would be a steal in NYC, but it is just dumb here. I guess I'm just a country bumpkin though. What do I know?

Admittedly, Portland lacks that self-loathing, defensive, whiny, can't-do attitude that is the only point of civic "pride" in Seattle.

Of course, Portland is just Portland. It's not a city that thinks it compares to New York or San Francisco, when it's really just a depressed Minneapolis, or Des Moines having a nicotine fit.

When I moved here from Baltimore for my job as a software project manager I couldn't believe Seattle's cheap condos in great locations.

I'm sure real estate in Seattle will keep going up like it always has. We have great restaurants, more density every day and a great Jewish community. Seattle rocks.

Portland's ability to build super tall massive monuments to developer ego is limited by the layout of the downtown street grid. The founders laid out blocks that are half the size of Seattle's super blocks. This means more retail on the ground level and perhaps a more humanistic scale.

Portland will never have a beautiful skyline full of tall and impressive buildings because all the rich who live in the west hills will fight to keep their view of Mt Hood. I once lived in a neighborhood where our neighbors poisoned our tree to get a better view of the narrows bridge. Can you poison a building?

Hahah, I like how Seattle thinks it's important.

I love Portland, but I wouldn't want to live here again.

That damned river just makes things difficult.

Hahaha, Jay, I like how you think your opinion of Seattle is more important than Seattle.

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