Comments on Rainier Ave and 42nd Ave S

What about accidents involving people looking at the graphc billboard and not the road?

That stretch of road is basically a freeway that ends in a stoplight. The accident rate isn't suprising, there isn't many roads like in the area.

Call me a billboard skeptic (more government-by-marketing there). I think the intersection cameras are the way to go. But the real way to moderate traffic on the street is to increase moderate uses: more street parking, more people in or near the street, maybe some roadway narrowing. What affect is Sound Transit going to have on clogging up the action a little (see, sometimes traffic is a good thing).

The road is basically 4 lanes and a turning lane. I'm thinking two lanes, a turning lane and two bicycle lanes. Smaller roads make people move slower. The added bicycle lanes open up the sides of the road for better visibility of bicycles and pedestrians.

You don't need to take away lanes. You just need to add streetside parking, and force landowners to build out to the street. Visually now Rainier looks like an expressway for most of its length, because there's nothing near it. I mean, look at some of those intersections on Google Maps -- there's enough waste ground at Rainier and Graham to play four or five games of football.

If you took away lanes, you'd have to fill it with something, and you might end up with something as soul-deadening as Beacon. Say no to landscaped meridians!

Whatchoutalkingbout Fnarf?

The meridian on Beacon is not just some piece of landscaping - it has a paved path running through it for "soul-deading" activities such as walking and biking.

What Rainer Ave needs is radar detectors (and the cops to operate them) - not billboard reminders.

"Hirakawa also emphasized the ROLL of driver and pedestrian alertness, saying,
- did Britney write this? Roll?

Full Disclosure: I ride rainier. I want a bike lane. I've been close to being hit too many times, so I use the sidewalk (shout out to my rims)

What a fabulous idea! Rainier Avenue has become a dangerous roadway in recent years. The billboards are a great idea and will remind drivers how devastating a car accident can be. I’ve seen photographs of accidents occurring at speeds as low as 25-35 mph where the damage is fairly substantial. In one case I handled, the speed was only 25 mph, but the impact caused my client’s car to roll over onto its hood. She later developed a herniated disc in her low back and she’s had ongoing problems ever since. I think SDOT’s billboard idea should also be copied by WDOT so that many more of the billboards can be seen on our state highways and those roadways that are fairly congested.

I live on Beacon Hill, overlooking the valley, and have lived there for seven years. I can tell you that the problem is morons: Those in the cars (many of whom I suspect don't have licenses) and the morons on foot, who think it's simply a wonderful idea to wander out into traffic, especially at night, and especially when wearing dark clothing.

The city has preliminary plans to put Rainier on a "road diet" between Rainier Beach and Alaska. This will include restriping the roadway to one lane in each direction and a center turn lane, among other things. Bikes will be served by sharrows - as I understand it there is not enough space for bike lanes.

"catalina vel-duray" hit the nail on the head! The problem is complete idiots behind the wheel and running across the road. I've had out of town visitors remark at how "strange" the traffic is on Rainier. Most of these idiots are immigrants, whether you like to admit it or not, and they have absolutely zero Western "street sense." I am willing to bet that most of the accidents are speed/alochol-related at night (when Rainier is for the most part empty) and during the daytime it is merely frustrated drivers trying to maneuver around aforementioned "idiots." I live in Seward Park, and I now routinely take LW Blvd and Massachusetts to get to downtown/I-90. It might not be faster, but it is prettier, separates the riff raff from the sane, logical, skilled drivers (me), and it keeps my blood pressure down...