If I was picking a candidate on the basis of policy, I'd go Kucinich. Electability is more important, sadly, and Hill still has much worse odds than Obama. But hey, I'm not even gonna bother with the primaries, so knock yourselves out kids.

Didn't Washington state go to a caucus system, meaning voting for president in the primary meaningless, or am I mistaken?

Well, maybe I won't feel so bad if I have to vote for Hilary, after all. I agree with christopher, based soley on policy I'd pick Kucinich. He's the only one who wants to do away with private health insurers altogether. For someone who is "top tier" (a bullshit term invented by the media to only give coverage to the candidates they wanted, i.e., not the true reformers), my vote is going to Edwards. I liked Obama a lot but Edwards gained my vote when he said the "war on terror" is a bumper sticker slogan that hasn't made us any safer. I thought, "gee, a Democrat who has some guts?" Finally. I actually think he may fight for some positive changes, more than Obama and certainly more than Clinton. But I'll end up voting for whomever gets the Dem nomination, which unfortunately, may very well be Hillary.

Well, maybe I won't feel so bad if I have to vote for Hilary, after all. I agree with christopher, based soley on policy I'd pick Kucinich. He's the only one who wants to do away with private health insurers altogether. For someone who is "top tier" (a bullshit term invented by the media to only give coverage to the candidates they wanted, i.e., not the true reformers), my vote is going to Edwards. I liked Obama a lot but Edwards gained my vote when he said the "war on terror" is a bumper sticker slogan that hasn't made us any safer. I thought, "gee, a Democrat who has some guts?" Finally. I actually think he may fight for some positive changes, more than Obama and certainly more than Clinton. But I'll end up voting for whomever gets the Dem nomination, which unfortunately, may very well be Hillary.

Hey, it didn't look like it was posting via the new posty thing.

Wow, this post sure looks familiar: http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/this_week_on_drugs_26

Seriously, Feit, @6 is right--read your own paper. And maybe report the actual quotes (which of course would be redundant, as Dominic Holden did this already), rather than DPA or Clinton campaign talking points. The more accurate description was the one given by Holden, who described Obama's quote as wishy-washier.

Hi folks: ummmmmmm....you won't get to vote for Hillary versus Obama versus Kucinich. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO VOTE SO YOUR CHOICE DOES NOT MATTER.

That's right, you don't have the right to vote in a Democratic primary in Washington State.

You can "pick" one of them in your mind, but it won't count. yOU HAVE NO VOTE.

You do have the right to go to a "State Democratic PArty caucus" on perhaps the date is what, 2/19??, which means you have to waste a Saturday for about 3 hours instead of skiing and go listen to a bunch of super boring local activists argue about the agenda, hear their plea for cash contributions, pass resolutions for guess what -- impeachment methinks -- .. and yes there will be scintillating discussions of other resolutions to pass, debates about the rules and whether we can all make agreements to suspend the rules (YAWNNNNNNN), references to Robers Rules of ORder (interesting tidbit: YES THE SAME ON FOR WHICH POINT ROBERTS IS NAMED!!!) appointment of a secretary blah blah blah and then go "vote" for the "delegates" FOR hILLARY oBAMA ETC. (NOT ACTUAL "VOTES " FOR HILLARY OBAMA ETC.) which then "allocate" "delegates" from your "precinct" to go to the next level.....

(the "precinct" is a teensy tinsy geog. segment that is like five apt. bldgs. on capitol hill, or maybe 5 blocks of single family homes in other pats of seattle -- a geog. entity for no purposes other than to count votes or in this case, delegates)

your allocation is also "weighted" diferently in different precincts and so there are many fascinating math computations with fractions to assign delegates to the next level

which is like, um, "district caucuses" or something (meaning you have to waste another whole day about 6 weeks later -- better hope your delegates continue to show up or else your participation in the first caucus will be TOTALLY wasted)

AND THEN there are more caucuses for the county AND THEN for the state.

And gee whilikers, by then Hilary or Obama or Edwards will konwn as the national winner ANYWAY so all thooe other delegates will actually switch to the winner at that point making the whole thing a bit of a farce.....

Obviously this is superior to having about 2 million democrats or voters in our state cast one vote each in a real primary election -- with a real winner -- that really counts -- because that would

a. make those candidates COME HERE AND CAMPAIGN
b. open participation to eveyone such as non-"party activists" and people who can't wate 4 hours or have to work on Saturday of have a Sabbath on Saturday or can't find child care on Satruday

c. are away such as out of town travelers, in the military abroad.

Really "democratic," State Dems !!!!!

BTW this also means our whole state's participation won't even register in the national media even as a "beuaty contest" -- because our Demo. caucus day there will be that super tuesday of primaries on feb. 5th inlcuding lots of states and that will set up the front runner -- and here on the west coast so our "news" that is created at 8 pm or whatever is too late for morning papers or morning news shows back east....

So go ahead and keep logging about who you like but just remember: YOUR VOICE DOES NOT COUNT TO THE STATE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

Your choices will basically be ignored.

This issue is 467th on the list of relevance.

#8, I made up to the part where you started needlessly using quotations. Did I miss anything batty?

Just see Carlo Mencia's First Man video! 12 Years of Clinton after 12 years of Bush! At least politics will be interesting.

http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/?ml_video=90225

see that showtime special "In Pot We Trust" ? pretty interesting program. I want to mail out some pot right now to that widow gal with the 4 kids. She has to go cruise the streets looking for weed. Ridic that she can't get medi-weed. Poor thing.