Slog - Comments on Gil's Boys. A Follow-Up Report http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report In last week's Stranger, Jonah reported on on a complaint against SPD officers who had forcefully arrested (and tasered) two black men for suspicion of being in a gang and for resisting arrest. When one of the suspect's cases went to court—the one accused of resisting arrest and obstruction—the charges were dismissed, one with prejudice. Meanwhile, the man suspected of being in a gang—he had a "gang" bandanna in his back pocket—was never charged. A follow-up investigation by the Office of Professional Accountability (the OPA, which investigates citizen complaints of misconduct) determined that the officers had used "unnecessary force." The... Copyright 2008 Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:05:35 -0800 Tue, 10 Jul 2007 07:21:05 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Mr. Poe "What is going on around here?"

Uh, misconduct.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760388 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760388 News Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:12:59 -0800 Comment by this sucks in other news, lewis libby exonerated dick cheney of involvement in the valerie plame case, and the justice department exonerated itself of politically based and discriminatory hirings and firings!

]]> this sucks http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760432 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760432 News Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:03:48 -0800 Comment by RonK, Seattle What IS going on around here?

In your attempt to drum up a case against Kerlikowski, your poster child #1 (Patterson) turned out to be a mischievous gnome.

Poster child #2 (Alley-Barnes) took the initiative in creating the fracas that got his ass improperly whipped.

Poster child #3's case resulted in an OPA finding of inappropriate use of force, treated as a training issue rather than departmental discipline. (About 750 use of force reports are filed annually, resulting in about 150 complaints. 3 or 4 are sustained and disciplined, and another half dozen referred as training issues. Inevitably, there are fuzzy boundaries on use-of-force decisions, both in the field and on procedural review.)

What IS going on here? Seems to me your master narrative is unraveling, and you are scrambling to impeach the whole process by quibbling over one person's potentially inconsistent word choice.

From the OPA definition
"An additional finding, newly established in 2004, is “Supervisory Intervention.” This finding is used where, although there may have been a violation of policy, the violation was not willful, and/or the violation did not amount to misconduct." So Supervisory Intervention may or may not indicate misconduct.

Scrap your bogus narrative, look back at the facts, see what you did with them ... and then start asking questions again.

]]> RonK, Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760465 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760465 News Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:50:07 -0800 Comment by vooodooo84 SPD is spreading like an STD - Bluescholars

]]> vooodooo84 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760523 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760523 News Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:34:46 -0800 Comment by wf @3: oh my god. Alley-Barnes deserved to have his ass kicked because he said something about the Constitution to a police officer? Next time you think a police officer is harrassing you, I hope he lifts you up by the crotch, slams you on his police car, and then calls three friends to come kick your ass for "having a big mouth."

]]> wf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760549 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760549 News Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:26:06 -0800 Comment by RonK, Seattle wf @ 5 -- That's not what I said ... but there's more to the story than you'll read here.

]]> RonK, Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760590 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760590 News Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:49:50 -0800 Comment by spokevin @5 you mean like this?
http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20070705015018573

And then there's this:

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/local/story.asp?ID=197267&page=2


]]> spokevin http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760612 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760612 News Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:15:34 -0800 Comment by Jonah S And what precisely IS that, Ron? Care to enlighten us? You just said Alley-Barnes "created the fracas" when even the OPA's report admonishes Sergeant Sackman for escalating the situation.

]]> Jonah S http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760613 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760613 News Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:16:10 -0800 Comment by RonK, Seattle spokevin @ 7 -- Your cites do not appear to address the Alley-Barnes incident.

Jonah -- Wjat say we take case at a time, "my friend"? Are you ready to give up the Patterson incident, or are you (like Nick Licata) still attempting CPR?

]]> RonK, Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760741 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/gils_boys_a_followup_report#c760741 News Tue, 10 Jul 2007 07:21:05 -0800