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Check out that poll on the front page of that Faith and Freedom site.

Those are some scary numbers.

Makes me wish these sites would run a simultaneous poll asking if heterosexuality is a choice.

Posted by dirge | July 23, 2007 2:16 PM

I wish Murray would reply to that email by letting that guy know he'd be happy to help him pack for his move back to where ever it was he came from that is sooo much better.

Posted by monkey | July 23, 2007 2:22 PM

This is proof the lawyers are not in control of America. If they were they would be all about legalizing gay marriage. Just think about the divorce rate and ALL those nasty divoces!! So come on America! Get behind Gay Marriage for the sake of the divorce attorneys!!!

Posted by Used to date a lawyer | July 23, 2007 2:27 PM

There is supposed to be the separation of church and state in this country. The religious right cannot argue against gay marriage on anything but religious reasons. Maybe people of "faith" should not be allowed to vote.

Posted by elswinger | July 23, 2007 2:30 PM

More interesting was the recent lawsuit by a Canadian couple suing for their rights under international treaty to be treated as married - I think it was in Texas.

As with those who support the War, the radical Reds know that they will lose this war, no matter how many battles they "win".

And Ed Murray works for me, monkey, so stop whining. I vote here.

Posted by Will in Seattle | July 23, 2007 2:32 PM

@1 - the poll numbers are scary, but it means nobody intelligent goes to that site. Is that good?

Posted by Cat in Chicago | July 23, 2007 2:34 PM

I used to date a lawyer back in '87. Only he wasn't a lawyer. He was a backstreet abortionist named Dr. Lawyer. We went to go see Some Kind of Wonderful and he wouldn't put out. So I killed him. Word.

Posted by Mr. Poe | July 23, 2007 2:34 PM

People please, have some compassion for these Christians since their relationships are about to be destroyed by gay marriage. They're the real victims here - just like that Senator Vittles and State Rep Whatshisface in Florida.

They'll all be giving blow jobs in the men's room at The Cuff by the end of week and it's all our fault. Lord, have mercy.

Posted by Original Andrew | July 23, 2007 2:45 PM

The tide is turning, so can we make this piddling bill a thing of the past and at least go for full civil unions? I've already got all these rights, cause I spent $500 on wills and powers of attorney.

Posted by Gitai | July 23, 2007 2:46 PM

@8 Please, please, please let the Mormons be the first to be affected. So many hot blonde boys.

Posted by Gitai | July 23, 2007 2:48 PM

That is the best angle to get approved same-sex marriage EVER. All we need are TONS of women marrying straight guys, then filing for alimony. Afterward file for domestic partnership and keep asking for money. Once a straight guy realizes he has to PAY because of un-equal rights, we'll see marriage equality in NO TIME!

Posted by Original Monique | July 23, 2007 3:06 PM

Will #5, I'm not whinning, I'm telling the whiner that emailed Ed to go back to where he came from.

Ed works for me too, which is nice since I voted for him.

Posted by monkey | July 23, 2007 3:12 PM

Oh, ok, my bad.

Posted by Will in Seattle | July 23, 2007 3:20 PM

@9-While I agree that the new law is woefully inadequate, you do gain one very important right that no legal document could give you--the right to sue for wrongful death of your partner.

Two dozen rights down, 1376 to go . . .

Posted by Cate | July 23, 2007 3:22 PM

@14 I'm just not gonna be happy til I can mark "married" on my federal tax returns, like our neighbours to the north. It's just that simple. I won't even be marginally satisfied til we have full civil unions like our neighbors to the south. Plus, I keep hearing about how we're gonna keep expanding the rights. What's next? When is that being announced? When is it gonna be worthwhile for me to actually fork over $50 for another fucking license?

Posted by Gitai | July 23, 2007 3:39 PM

Gitai @ 15,

I understand how you feel, but if you want to check "married" on your federal tax return, you'd better be prepared for a very long wait since most Americans are openly hostile towards marriage equality. The GOP (Greed-Oil-Pollution plus hate and lies for free) has built a cottage industry around anti-marriage equality hysteria.

In the meantime, we need to take care of and provide for our partners as best we can, and this is another tool to accomplish that.

Posted by Original Andrew | July 23, 2007 3:50 PM

@16 I actually have confidence in the American people that marriage equality isn't that far away. The demographics are swinging our way so damn fast, that I figure ten, fifteen years max.

In the meantime, I want my fucking civil union. The public is already in favor of that.

Posted by Gitai | July 23, 2007 4:12 PM

Gitai @ 17,

The Report Card on Prejudice in America was just released today by Zogby International and the results are pretty ugly.

Overall, 62% of Americans oppose marriage equality, and the section on racism is a real frakking bummer. We have to understand that we're living in a right-wing country and our fellow citizens range from ambivalent to hostile towards us and our needs. When we have a chance to secure protections for ourselves like with the new law, we need to take it.

We're not Canada, and most Americans are not decent people who will do the right thing. Read some of those racism stats and shudder, for example: "While 67% of respondents claimed to have no preference themselves between a white, black or Arab clerk in a convenience store, 71% said, “most Americans” would seek out the white clerk."

The pollsters ask people what "most Americans" would do because people reveal their true feelings when talking about others. Ugh.

Posted by Original Andrew | July 23, 2007 4:34 PM

Yes, OA, but you must also understand that a very large chunk of those people are over the age of 40. The up and coming age groups below thirty are just as far skewed in favor of us. And they'll be voting for alot longer than those in the upper age brackets.

Posted by the other John | July 23, 2007 5:16 PM

@19 That's what I'm talking about. The bigoted old bastards are dying off at a fast rate, probably poisoned by the hatred in their shriveled hearts. When a high school with 2,000 students has 100 out kids, it becomes harder to hate them.

Posted by Gitai | July 23, 2007 6:06 PM

Republican Jan Shabro lost her seat for supporting the gay civil rights bill.

Posted by Not this time | July 23, 2007 9:53 PM

I'd sooner deal with a domestic partner pervert than all those married closet case perverts I run across when I cruise in parks.

Posted by cruisey is as cruisey does | July 23, 2007 10:01 PM

Jan Shabro lost her seat because Chris Hurst ran again. He'd held the seat before, and he's fairly popular with the electorate. Jan, while a nice lady, hasn't done much to distinguish herself in the public perception.

I strongly doubt it was the homophobes who handed Chris his win.

Posted by Geni | July 24, 2007 1:41 PM

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