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<title>Slog - Comments on Crumbling in Theory</title>
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<description>From a letter Goethe wrote to Lavater: Like a big city, our moral and political world is undermined with subterranean roads, cellars, and sewers, about whose connection and dwelling conditions nobody seems to reflect or think; but those who know something of this will find it much more understandable if here or there, now or then, the earth crumbles away, smoke rises out of a crack, and strange voices are heard. In this passage we see the seed of what the 20th century will recognize as Walter Benjamin&apos;s way of thinking and style of writing. This is it completely. The...</description>
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<title>Comment by christopher</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I suppose I could read Hegel’s “Final Result” once a week... or I could play Final Fantasy 12 for 15 hours a week.  Think I'm going with FF12.  Y'know, I'm one of those people that thinks at some point in the future I'm gonna start doing exercise and reading thinky stuff, but right this minute, impoverished and stressed out, I'm going with the masses.<br />
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<author>christopher</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/crumbling_in_theory#c761583</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:40:54 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mr. Poe</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Let's leave the thinky stuff to the people who think they're thinking.</p>

<p>I'll be playing Gears of War and watching the <i>Superbad</i> trailer over and over again.</p>]]></description>
<author>Mr. Poe</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/crumbling_in_theory#c761590</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:46:33 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by christopher</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Usually Poe, I think you're too flip and apolitical for me to dig, but I just googled "Superbad" and that looks so cool!  You win.<br />
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<author>christopher</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/crumbling_in_theory#c761594</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:51:39 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Too Flip 4 U</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Apolitical?! But I read teh Stranger!!1one</p>]]></description>
<author>Too Flip 4 U</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/crumbling_in_theory#c761598</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:56:58 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by christopher</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>That you do...</p>]]></description>
<author>christopher</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/crumbling_in_theory#c761604</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:04:05 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Too Flip 4 U</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Did you watch the unedited trailer, or the lame trailer?</p>

<p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=YCcagk26siA" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=YCcagk26siA</a></p>]]></description>
<author>Too Flip 4 U</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/crumbling_in_theory#c761639</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:48:01 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by MvB</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Mainly, Charles, what I see is someone who knows the use of metaphor (Goethe). And then there are two selections reflecting the pitfalls of argument by analogy. Goethe's description relies on two known experiences, with experience B bridged to experience A. It's the perspective on the moral world you get while standing next to a sewer grate.</p>

<p>But then with Oparin you have an analogy doing the brute force work of uniting living and dead -- two exclusive categories which if united would cease to be meaningful. The crumbling earth here is from the shoddiness of his logic, opposing biology and physics, as if human categorization was somehow deeply reflective of the nature of being. Experience B is all supposition, so there's no particular constraint (or worth) in comparison -- he might as well say that when knowledge about living and dead things unites it'll be like a jello dish with pineapple in it.</p>

<p>And then again, Hegel, though here the earth is crumbling because it's so obviously an intellectual construct, a dirt that hinders the luminescence of spirit. (How delightful it would be, really, if there were nothing between us and the light of the sun?) The level of abstraction acts against the employ of the crumbling earth analogy; it's simply poetic speech without poetic rigor, a manipulative institution of the apparently real to provide contrast for the transcendent majesty of spirit. This perspective is simple assertion -- it pretends to link the metaphysical and physical, but only to undermine the physical. Spirit, naturally, doesn't crumble.</p>]]></description>
<author>MvB</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/crumbling_in_theory#c761640</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:48:18 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by N</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>So three different translators used the same word.  What's actually in the texts?  </p>

<p>Reading translations is like eating a photograph of bread.</p>]]></description>
<author>N</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/crumbling_in_theory#c761659</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:14:42 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by lawrence clark</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@7,Yes, but does Charles actually read the comments?</p>]]></description>
<author>lawrence clark</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/crumbling_in_theory#c761939</link>
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<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:56:45 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by charles mudede</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@9, yes, every word. very much enjoyed what mvb had to say.</p>]]></description>
<author>charles mudede</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/crumbling_in_theory#c761972</link>
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<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:42:58 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mr. Poe</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@9</p>

<p>He reads them, but he's very careful when and where he replies. Besides, why should he actually care what we have to say? He's like Bush. He's in his own little world.</p>]]></description>
<author>Mr. Poe</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/crumbling_in_theory#c762021</link>
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