Slog - Comments on Clinton's CSPAN Cleavage http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage Discussed today, at length, in The Washington Post. Money, er, quote: There was the sense that you were catching a surreptitious glimpse at something private. You were intruding -- being a voyeur. Showing cleavage is a request to be engaged in a particular way. It doesn't necessarily mean that a woman is asking to be objectified, but it does suggest a certain confidence and physical ease. It means that a woman is content being perceived as a sexual person in addition to being seen as someone who is intelligent, authoritative, witty and whatever else might define her personality. It... Copyright 2008 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:25:56 -0800 Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:55:08 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by huh? She's not really showing any cleavage. It's just a regular V-neck shirt.

]]> huh? http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c766983 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c766983 2008 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:27:38 -0800 Comment by Carollani Good for her!

]]> Carollani http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c766996 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c766996 2008 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:42:25 -0800 Comment by arduous Oh my god. What is WRONG with the WaPo? First of all, there was barely any cleavage. Second of all, is this what we're debating? Candidates NECK LINES?

]]> arduous http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c766999 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c766999 2008 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:45:09 -0800 Comment by Original Andrew Get ready for lots more of this. Remember last fall when all the Moron Media could blabber about were Nancy's Pelosi's outfits and her grandchildren? Ugh.

]]> Original Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767010 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767010 2008 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:06:06 -0800 Comment by Sachi *sigh*

]]> Sachi http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767011 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767011 2008 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:09:36 -0800 Comment by Fnarf They're not going to make her pretend to bake cookies again, are they?

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767015 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767015 2008 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:14:03 -0800 Comment by Erik Dear Washington Post,

When you waste our time on this trivia, what are you trying to distract us from?

Sincerely,

[h/t Somerby]

]]> Erik http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767036 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767036 2008 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:17:39 -0800 Comment by Catalina Vel-DuRay ...and yet nobody talks about that skanky Coulter, trudging around in her tired old black cocktail dress, as if anyone would want a piece of THAT.

]]> Catalina Vel-DuRay http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767060 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767060 2008 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:27:19 -0800 Comment by Robert Allen You didn't see Denny Hastert displaying HIS, did you? Not in public like that.

]]> Robert Allen http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767063 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767063 2008 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:37:37 -0800 Comment by dear god Fire the fucker who wrote that article. Seriously. If I were the editor, I would. Or fire the editor who let it go to print. That kind of shit is an afront to journalism, a self-parody.

]]> dear god http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767068 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767068 2008 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:21:12 -0800 Comment by Dan and Hillary-prowar.com So Bush meets this Marine who lost both his legs in Iraq and says \"Good Man, We\'re Gonna Get Him Some New Legs...\" Bush is the guy Dan Savage supported to start a war in Iraq. The Marine is the guy who is paying the price for Bush\'s stupidity and incompetence.

Excerpts below from Dan Savage\'s \"Say yes to war\" piece Oct. 2002

\"While the American left is content to see an Iraqi dictator terrorizing the Iraqi people, the Bushies in D.C. are not. \"We do not intend to put American lives at risk to replace one dictator with another,\" Dick Cheney recently told reporters. For those of you who were too busy making papier-mâché puppets of George W. Bush last week to read the papers, you may have missed this page-one statement in last Friday\'s New York Times: \"The White House is developing a detailed plan, modeled on the postwar occupation of Japan, to install an American-led military government in Iraq if the United States topples Saddam Hussein.\"\"

\"In the meantime, invading and rebuilding Iraq will not only free the Iraqi people, it will also make the Saudis aware of the consequences they face if they continue to oppress their own people while exporting terrorism and terrorists. The War on Iraq will make it clear to our friends and enemies in the Middle East (and elsewhere) that we mean business: Free your people, reform your societies, liberalize, and democratize... or we\'re going to come over there, remove you from power, free your people, and reform your societies for ourselves\"

]]> Dan and Hillary-prowar.com http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767078 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767078 2008 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:12:50 -0800 Comment by Fnarf If Hillary wants to be taken seriously as a woman, she's going to have to wear a burka. You can't trust a woman if you can see her ankles.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767087 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767087 2008 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:51:08 -0800 Comment by Dianna Nope Fnark, then she'd be an "Islamo-fascist."

]]> Dianna http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767098 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767098 2008 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:41:04 -0800 Comment by lawrence clark Does Charles work for The Washington Post, too? Please, God help us.

]]> lawrence clark http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767108 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767108 2008 Sat, 21 Jul 2007 02:11:37 -0800 Comment by Lloyd Clydesdale Funny coincidence, but cleaveage makes me feel 'utterly at ease in my skin, coolly confident about my appearance, and unflinching about my sense of style', too. Like a therapeutic hypnotist swinging the watch in front of me.

]]> Lloyd Clydesdale http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767119 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767119 2008 Sat, 21 Jul 2007 08:37:06 -0800 Comment by Maggie Sweet cuppin cakes!!! Turns out, Hillary has breasts like every woman!

]]> Maggie http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767127 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767127 2008 Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:33:57 -0800 Comment by catalina vel-duray In the context of the article placement (the fashion section) it makes sense, but I still don't recall them covering anything about Coulter's skanky look. Maybe because it's so skanky - or maybe because they like to stick to women's fashions ;-)

]]> catalina vel-duray http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767131 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767131 2008 Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:17:01 -0800 Comment by Sean I don't get the:

If they said this about Hillary, why do they not say something about Coulter too?.

Since when does that Hillary/Anne comparison make any sense, in any context? The comparison, itself, is insulting, don't you think?

]]> Sean http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767143 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767143 2008 Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:23:22 -0800 Comment by keshmeshi @9,

And thank God for that.

]]> keshmeshi http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767144 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767144 2008 Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:28:21 -0800 Comment by maxsolomon if she showed ass cleavage, then they'd have a point.

jesus fucking christ, the media has its head up its ass.

]]> maxsolomon http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767152 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767152 2008 Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:44:49 -0800 Comment by Mac @14 Exactly what I thought. It's like he's ghostwriting.

]]> Mac http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767161 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767161 2008 Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:22:03 -0800 Comment by catalina vel-duray Sean, my point was that they write about female politicians and government officials, critiquing their fashion style. They also do that about celebrities. While Coulter is not a politician or government official, she does qualify as a celebrity. Yet few comment on her fashion sense, except to mention her short skirts.

One of the things that I think is unusual about Ann Coulter is that she really does have a uniform: The black cocktail dress. She wears them for a all kinds of appearances, including things like the Today Show, which is the epitome of "a setting that does not involve cocktails and hors d’oeuvres" yet that is seldom mentioned.

(Lately, she has been accesorizing that cocktail dress with a silver crucifix, which adds to my sneaking suspicion that she is some sort of performance artist.)

I simply think it's odd, that's all. I don't know how you can find insult in that, but some people love to look for an insult in even the most innocuous comment.

]]> catalina vel-duray http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767165 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767165 2008 Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:47:09 -0800 Comment by Sean Catalina - I may have misunderstood you but your's is not the first comment I've heard to use Ann as some kind of antithesis, or parallel to Hillary. I think neither woman deserves it.

I get your point now. Thanks.

]]> Sean http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767197 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767197 2008 Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:58:52 -0800 Comment by OR Matt In the politcal arena, that is cleavage?

I'm with @10, fire the writer of that article! What a waste of news print. And likewise, what does that say about Ann Coutler (maybe she is comfortable in her skin in a more unsavory sort of way, totally numb to herself ... rather whoreish?)

]]> OR Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767358 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767358 2008 Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:41:47 -0800 Comment by Nick Salad.

]]> Nick http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767601 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767601 2008 Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:49:47 -0800 Comment by Geni Um. What.The.FUCK?

Is that what passes for journalism nowadays? Did that "reporter" who wrote that story graduate from college? If I'd been that person's journalism professor, I think I'd hunt 'em down and beat the shit out of them, for the sake of all future journalists.

Wow. Females have breasts! Who knew?!

]]> Geni http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767608 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/clintons_cspan_clevage#c767608 2008 Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:55:08 -0800