Slog - Comments on Atlas Clothing & Music http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music A letter from Atlas... Dear Stranger readers, As many of you have already heard, we at Atlas Clothing had a visit Friday night from the Seattle Fire Department who shut down the show after they decided the venue did not meet their safety standards. All of the members of the SFD inspecting Atlas were more than helpful and sympathetic to the space. Their main concern was the safety of show goers and in the event of an emergency, the SFD. All of us at Atlas support that decision. Long before the inspection, we searched through the building to look out... Copyright 2008 Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:47:07 -0800 Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:56:35 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Andrew Good to see Atlas is not just going to allow themselves to fade away into oblivion. Would have been nice if they mentioned that they did not hold the Stranger accountable for the Fire Inspection though.

]]> Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756117 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756117 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:55:59 -0800 Comment by Matt from Denver I notice that the letter doens't say anything about whether they blame The Stranger for the shutdown. Wonder how they really feel about it.

]]> Matt from Denver http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756126 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756126 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:00:25 -0800 Comment by It's Mark Mitchell Let's hope everyone gets over this little episode ASAP.

]]> It's Mark Mitchell http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756133 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756133 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:06:30 -0800 Comment by yo Looks like they are putting their focus on where it belongs: Getting up to code and putting on good shows. Go Atlas!

]]> yo http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756135 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756135 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:11:57 -0800 Comment by Lloyd Clydesdale Hear hear, kids. At least you take responsibility in THIS communication for the situation you put yourself in.

That said, I'm sure myself and lots of other Sloggers will be happy to see Atlas come into compliance with the approriate regulations, and for you kids to go nuts with the live shows.

]]> Lloyd Clydesdale http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756145 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756145 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:29:53 -0800 Comment by Crispy Gloves Atlas? What Atlas? My boycott is on.

]]> Crispy Gloves http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756148 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756148 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:34:00 -0800 Comment by Little Red Ryan Hood I love how much everyone bitched about this and said that they were working their collective asses off volunteering to get everything up to code but no construction started until after the place got shut down.
I'm guessing no changes would have been made until the place got shutdown.

]]> Little Red Ryan Hood http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756160 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756160 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:48:09 -0800 Comment by El Bandito Fuck you Crispy, like they would let you in anyway. Fall down on the highway.

]]> El Bandito http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756161 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756161 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:48:30 -0800 Comment by El Bandito Fuck you Crispy, like they would let you in anyway. Fall down on the highway.

]]> El Bandito http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756163 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756163 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:49:18 -0800 Comment by DS they probably dont feel like getting caught up in everyone's shit - on either side. i was under the impression yesterday (after digging through the slog) that this was a permanent shut down and they would not be able to apply for the permits again... i guess that was wrong. the two week shut down mostly sucks for the bands who were booked and the bookers who spent time getting the shows together.

]]> DS http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756193 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756193 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:36:32 -0800 Comment by Curious Does anyone else picture everyone from atlas sitting around this weekend shaking their fists saying "And I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids!"

]]> Curious http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756202 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756202 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:49:15 -0800 Comment by Janie I'm glad that they're concerned about the fire issue. Some of the other covert places I've been to don't seem to care that if there's a fire a bunch of people are going to die.

]]> Janie http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756205 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756205 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:50:53 -0800 Comment by Gomez I notice that the letter doens't say anything about whether they blame The Stranger for the shutdown. Wonder how they really feel about it.

Probably because, ultimately, that's irrelevant to the central issue, which was that they were planning and holding shows, and even went public about it, before their space was up to code. The Stranger outed them, but it's not like Atlas didn't do it to themselves via poor planning, and stating this is the point of the letter.

]]> Gomez http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756217 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756217 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:03:14 -0800 Comment by Tom C. This whole situation has been rather ugly, so its good to see something respectful come out of it.

]]> Tom C. http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756219 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756219 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:05:19 -0800 Comment by cochise. "outing is brutal and it should be reserved for brutes"

Dan Savage
6/12/07

]]> cochise. http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756269 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756269 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:47:55 -0800 Comment by Fnarf But you have to admit the righteousness on display was an awesome thing to see. I STAND AGAINST YOU! Damn! That shit had me pumped!

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756308 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756308 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:31:48 -0800 Comment by Matt from Denver Gomez, what I was thinking when I posted above is that some of the people who signed were the same one posting things like "FUCK YOU, FUCK YOUR ARTICLE AND FUCK THE STRANGER" just the other day. I think it matters whether they still think that.

]]> Matt from Denver http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756325 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756325 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:53:00 -0800 Comment by Matt from Denver Gomez, BTW, I agree completely with you. Just to clarify, some Atlas people were blaming The Stranger. This letter suggests otherwise, but it's telling that they don't address that issue, e.g. whether The Stranger is at fault for reporting this in the first place (which to me is a much more interesting point than Atlas' future).

]]> Matt from Denver http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756328 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756328 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:56:21 -0800 Comment by wench I thought it was interesting too, MfD... without going back to look I know Kristin's letters definitely stood out, so it's odd to see her name attached to something so calm and rational.

]]> wench http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756341 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756341 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:06:31 -0800 Comment by Larry Brady Hmmm.. this letter makes it seem that the folks at Atlas will have a bright future in a PR department, or perhaps working for a political campaign....

Still, nice to know there is still a chance of everything turning out allright. Best of luck to 'em.

]]> Larry Brady http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756393 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756393 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:49:40 -0800 Comment by Gomez Ah, I see, Matt.

]]> Gomez http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756584 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756584 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:04:39 -0800 Comment by matt fu please note: "we'll be posting information on our myspace page... regarding... our reaction to recent events around the closing of the atlas space."

don't look for it to be pissy douche-bag'ness either. there are just some misrepresentations in the article and in some posts here, possibly, that we want to set straight. (for example, atlas almost always takes a 20% cut not 50%). stuff to most of you that will be pretty boring...

please stay tuned. we have our first group "punkhouse" meeting since the article was published tonight and will be formulating said response.

thanks for your support! and for all, on both sides, who have had pertinent things to say about this.

love comma
matt fu

]]> matt fu http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756588 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756588 Music Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:10:25 -0800 Comment by What were you thinking? The Fire Department works 24/7 and would have been happy to assist you in being compliant in advance of any events. You should not be defending them, you should be searching your own souls to explain why you endangered your patrons this far without even requesting an inspection.

There is no excuse for inviting "customers" into a space that you do not believe is safe and expecting to be shut down... Why not be RESPONSIBLE and take care of your customers by doing things by the book?

I have friends who work there and have spent a fair amount of $ there over the years but there will have to be some pretty strong signs that my safety is of concern to you in every way before I even consider shopping in your store again.

It's time for Seattle businesses to grow up and learn some responsibility. I know this sounds harsh but to hear, from your own words, that you had a strong feeling your space wasn't up to snuff???? FUCK YOU!!! You had no concern for my safety, I have no concern for your PROFIT!

]]> What were you thinking? http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756818 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c756818 Music Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:36:12 -0800 Comment by Aha "Does anyone else picture everyone from atlas sitting around this weekend shaking their fists saying "And I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids!"

I was kinda picturing the Stranger staff saying that at the community response to the article!

]]> Aha http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c757382 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c757382 Music Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:19:07 -0800 Comment by Just Saying "It's time for Seattle businesses to grow up and learn some responsibility."

I think this could be said about The Stranger as well. They have a fairly deep history of fucking over local businesses through articles and advertising, this certainly isn't the first time an article seemed to have fairly obvious harmful results with no claim of responsibility or causation from Stranger staff. They don't seem to care about who their articles hurt. The careless disregard for the music community and their advertisers is something you wouldn't expect from such a large paper.

]]> Just Saying http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c757384 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c757384 Music Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:25:51 -0800 Comment by Genghis Komet dear number 23, if it had stayed an informal thing as it had been, there would be no need. the shows were a secret thing until just recently.

please don't send the fire department to my basement to break up my party.

]]> Genghis Komet http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c760369 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/07/atlas_clothing_music#c760369 Music Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:56:35 -0800