Seriously, I thought that office was crawling with The Gays! The film version had Ann-Margret for GOD'S SAKE!
How old are you Josh?
um. i knew that. just saying.
What is happening in his head?
I wish I knew.
I wish I knew.
I'm 100 years old. I have Tommy (the Who's version) on vinyl, cassette, and CD.
These letters are amazing.
Dude, you really screwed the pooch on this one.
Please don't plead the typcial "you didn't get my ironic and hilarious fake ignorance," as a cover. You blew it.
#2 had it right, how old are you?
and it had elton john in huge (i mean like 6ft tall) platform shoes!
wow, Josh, while i am amazed you didn't know the reference, i am even more amazed that none of the editors or others in the office have heard of it either.
i thought you guys all loved to get stoned and revel in being hipsters--Tommy is a classic "drug" movie.
i'll give you a heads up that if you ever review a weird play called "the wall", it was written by another british band call Pink Floyd. no one in the band was named floyd. just thought you should know...
elswinger, beat me to the punch about your age. And what rock did you crawl out from under?
did you really not know Tommy? i can't ever tell if any of you Slog writers are serious or not because everything is written with the "saracasm/irony" know dialed up to 11. (BTW - that's another well-known musical reference. See if you can get that one. :)
Adhering to this very simple rule would have prevented this: avoid Issaquah.
i am only 23 years old and i knew that 'tommy' was the product of pete townshend/the who. i agree, a little research should have been done before babbling off about the show.
i am an avid reader of the stranger/slog and i think this is a bit shameful and makes the writer look like an uninformed hack.
"i'll give you a heads up that if you ever review a weird play called "the wall", it was written by another british band call Pink Floyd. no one in the band was named floyd. just thought you should know..."
reminds me of the time i was in amoeba records and i overherad someone describe can as a band that seemed heavily influenced by stereolab.. but this would be a splendid idea for a column... pick a warhorse from yesrteryear and have josh review it and cite the influences..just off the top of my head how's about yes' fragile..or elp's brain salad surgery
Usually I'm with you, Stranger, but this time I just don't get the joke...
Seriously? You guys...
Not one choir queer or drama fag at the Stranger caught this before press time?
I asked because I work at the UW and am surrounded by 18-22 year olds. And I just realized today that R.E.M.'s Document and Guns & Roses' Appetite For Destruction came out 20 years ago.
bloody brilliant post! they are playing Live Earth this year, let's see if the stranger suggests them as "a great new act"...
Tina fucking Turner as the Acid Queeen!
Dude, it's not "apparently, I fucked up..." it's "I totally fucked up real real bad."
This reminds me of the time some 20 year old girl asked me who The Journeys were.
Jesus Christ! DOES NO ONE HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR ANYMORE? I am completely stunned. Are are you all pranking now? God, I hope so.
im 25 and certainly no music snob, but i cant believe the stranger has some fucktard out reviewing music or whatever he was doing, without having any idea about tommy or the who. i mean this is embarrassing. i expect better out of seattlites. then again, hes probably from colorado or something.
20 years ago a girl I went to Evergreen with had never heard of Neil Young. I told him he was Paul Young's father. Now I can't remember what song Paul Young was famous for.
i have intimate knowledge of Josh Feit's extensive record collection and can report that THE WHO feature quite prominently. Feit know's The Who did Tommy just like you know The What did The Huh?
btw, did that old man fiddle with kids or was that just research?
to Amy Kate Horn~
if this is a joke, i highly suggest you come clean now. this is seriously the type of fuck up that destroys your credibility as a source of information and advice. seriously...almost as bad as plagarism or making up a news story....fucking up this bad isn't something you should do as a joke. you can't recover from the damage.
how would being ignorant of tommy be funny?
also, how is josh's reaction not like 'who shot jr' on dallas? was it all a dream?
Hmmmmm, apparently the Stranger needs to be a "serious" publication from now on.
Honestly, given The Stranger's penchant for snarky, faux-hipster no-nothingism, I honestly thought the review was intentionally meant to display the callous ignorance of the writer.
Now, I discover it was actually, genuinely, sincerely displaying the writer's ignorance, not to mention lack of common research skills.
I'm not sure which disappoints me more...
And I can't believe none of you mentioned Jack Nicholson's cameo, AND the fact that Ken Russell directed.
Jeebuz, sometimes you kids make me feel so frackin' OLD.
Wait, Tommy is the name of a rock band? I'm confused. Is this like a hip hopera? Please, Slog commenters, the Stranger needs your help to stay on top of stuff like this!
You are all idiots. Admittedly dry, but obviously a joke.
[Screaming:] OF COURSE IT'S A FUCKING JOKE!
If *you all* aren't joking, your condescension-coated stupidity is making me suicidal.
@ 1, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 15, 17, 18, 20, 23, 24, 26 and probably dozens to come:
I edit the theater section.
It kills me how dumb you're being. It just kills me. I had so much more faith in your collective ability to take a joke.
When we fuck up, we cop to it: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=26022.
All of you, please stop. You're plunging me into despair.
My God! It's obviously sarcastic. Did you guys actually read Josh's article? The tone of it is not like Josh at all...he's clearly joking. Why else would he be making fun of boomers if he wasn't aware of Tommy's origins?
I hope he's joking, at least. Because if not, it wouldn't just be a factually inaccurate piece, it would be a horribly written one as well.
Also, ddv, it's spelled plagiarism.
Okay, you guys, you had me really questioning your credibility on that one. Well played. Maybe next time save it for April.
Of course now I'm thinking I need to get all my younger friends super high and make them watch it.
Hey asshead, if people didn't react this way, what was the point of Josh's post. You got people on a joke and you call them dumb for falling for it?
@30 see the problem is, we all could be joking/dense on purpose, or actually be dense and then write it off later that we were in fact joking.
why arent you affording us the same standard you want for yourself?
I wish I could find that article about the hidden Seattle neighborhood -- "Little France" -- from several years ago now. That was awesome. and also a joke. It's a Stranger tradition!
Fake guys? I really doubt it... nice try Stanger staffers. And why exactly are you fighting Josh's battles for him?
it is kind of funny how all the staffers rush to the "it's a joke" defense. kind of ironic how pissed they get at the city, state, other instances of "the system" banding together to defend their own, then pull the same shit when they fuck up.
P.S. Amy, i'll start using spell check for my comments when your publications starts doing research for articles. :)
It's all so existential. Everybody at the Stranger is so stupid. Except Jen Graves, who I worship. Or do I?
@39, this wasnt written by charles so it doesnt pass that test
No offense to any of you staffers, as I love you all, but I think the problem (and the reason you're getting infuriatingly dumb responses)with this article/post is that it's just not funny. Because of this, people are responding as if Josh were actually an idiot.
Wait, was Tommy one of the contestants on American Idol? Was he the guy with the funny hair? Please, Slog commenters, we need your help!
@40 - I once lived on you. Your parking situation is horrendous.
@43 thats why I walk to work and school.
i heart charles mudededede (sp?).
Hmmm, I just looked at the calendar and it isn't April 1. So much for that theory.
My favorite movie is "Wild in the Streets."
Google it kids.
I thought it was hilarious. Not knowing who the Who is or what Tommy was is the funniest thing Josh has ever written. Zoom zoom, over their heads. It's not like there weren't hints all the way through the piece. I mean, c'mon, Josh has posted Who video clips to the Slog before.
Calm down, guys. Josh was making a long form joke that didn't really work. Now it's over.
Given that this is the same city that has given Patrick MacDonald a music column for about 500 years, I'm not surprised Seattle people have really deaf sarcasm meters.
Wait, didn't "Wild in the Streets" star Diane Lane as Ellen Aim? Help us Josh, Amy Kate and Brendan! We need your help! Wash our hair, Eric Grandy!
If you have to explain your joke, it's not funny. Way to win readers by calling them idiots! Keep up the good work!
For the longest time I could never understand why older guys obsessed over Ann Margaret.
Then I saw the version of State Fair that was done in like 1954.
That was when I understood why Tommy was such a hit.
it's good to see that the videos he posted in the paper edition of the stranger were good hints that other people missed.
Lordy, nobody knows how to read anymore.
Or, apparently, write.
so sanity is apparently pretending like you got the joke at the prodding of stranger staff?
sanity is over-rated.
@ 21 - oh, thanks a lot. Now I have "everytime you go away...you take a piece of me with youuuuu..." in my head.
Erm, Paul Young, not Pete Townshend.
And yes @22, it was just research. Honest.
Whatevs. I did this joke at my high school paper.
What would have been funny would be to review the performance as though it were child porn.
Hey Josh, did you hear the one about Mayor Nickels diggin smooth jazz?
Bette Midler played Tommy's mother and the Acid queen at a production put on at the Moore back in oh, 1971? She was very good at it. :-) (It was before she became well known.)
Bellevue Ave: um, video clips in the paper? I said "Slog", which is where they, and we, currently are.
To everyone wondering if it was an April Fool's joke...
Well, you'd be expecting it on April first, wouldn't you?
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Mayor loving smooth jazz = funny. Some dumb review about Issaquah theatre, not so much. It appears that somebody needs a Weekly lesson in funny.
Mayor loving jazz = (waste of) entire cover story
Tommy thing = small review
fnarf, the people giving josh shit presumably read the review for the show in print form and are not aware of the videos of the who he posted on slog. therefore to say that is evidence of it being this great big joke is null to everyone who missed out on that because they dont read slog.
...except that most of the people tripping on Josh's thing are commenters here on Slog where Josh post all his 60s obsessions shit all the time.
Suddenly I'm reminded of hapless employees of Pacific Northwest Ballet getting harangued for producing that version of the Nutcracker. You know, the one choreographed by Muammar Qaddafi.
It must be depressing to learn that a vast portion of your readers are ineducable retardates. Josh et al, you have my sympathy.
I agree with the folks that are saying that the problem was that it wasn't funny, that is why they didn't realize it was a joke. And no, people aren't "ineducable retardates" just because they didn't get Josh's lame joke.
@64: what @65 said.
It reminded me of the David Sedaris reviews of two school Christmas plays where he writes in the character of a bitter NYC drama critic ("Front Row Center with Thaddeus Bristol"). I enjoyed it.
I don't think most people are bright or questioning enough to understand satire. Perhaps I should amend that to "Americans," but I don't know how people elsewhere respond. I do know that when I wrote a review of "Star Wars" for my junior high newspaper and called it "a cheap, sleazy rip off of Battlestar Galactica," a few thought it was funny, but most couldn't understand it.
Josh! I am younger than you and I knew this. Get your mind out of the 60s!
Aw, what's a little more of beating the dead horse - it's one of the things we do best around here - so, Brendan & Amy Kate, the question you really should be asking yourselves is: "if Josh pens such a lame attempt at satire that someone such as myself - with a graduate degree in theatre, and the original "Tommy" concept album album collecting dust in my dwindling vinyl collection - fails to clearly "get" the satirical intent, then perhaps the fault lies, not in our lack of humor, but rather in Mr. Feit's abject failure to provide any in the first place.
And Ebeneezer@70, to even compare this to "Front Row Center with Thaddeus Bristol" is just, well - an insult to real satire.
Fact: Muammar Qaddafi has always been known to do his own hair.
Will in Seattle @51, the actual reason that the Tommy movie was a hit was not Ann-Margaret, but Jack Nicholson's performance of "Smash the Mirrow" http://digg.com/videos/comedy/Jack_Nicholson_singing_role_in_Tommy
When S.F. Sorrow came out in the U.S,, there were those critics who thought it was a rip off of Tommy. I could be wrong, but I don't think they were engaging in satire.
Mirror, not Mirrow. Excuse me.
Pete Townsend is such an asshole.
I heard this record called Tommy and its hella cool! It's like, there's this kid who plays video games, only SUPER old school, and he's super good, but he can't see anything! And then he gets molested! And he takes drugs! And the whole time the guitar is like chugga chigga chigga and a whole orechestra comes in! KA CHUNG! And there's this chick, and someone gets killed I think, and it's SOOOO COOOOL!!!!
I always thought "I Don't Know How to Love Him" was a really pretty song.
@65, while the people within slog are giving josh shit, did the original authors of the letters josh put up on slog frequent slog?
The only thing I find lame is the double standard of saying you were joking all along while not accepting that same thing from people taking the piss outta you.
@79, Paulus, I think you are in the wrong comment log. "I Don't Know How to Love Him" is from "Jesus Christ, Superstar", circa, I don't know (1972???)...
Okay, but that was Tina Turner as Mary Magdalene, right?
You are having an Orson Welles "War of the Worlds" moment. This kind of joke doesn't work in print, especially not on the web. You should know that.
Yesterday I ordered a sandwich and I asked for "no onions." The guy repeated my order back to me, but changed "no onions" to "extra onions." No smirk, no joking tone of voice. I corrected him, saying, "no onions." He had been making a joke and acted offended that I hadn't gotten it. What he failed to realize is that half of the waiters out there are idiots. I have no way of knowing whether he's one of them or not. It's just not a funny joke.
@82, Uh... I don't think so. Of course it has been a long time.
come on, no matter what-making fun of issaquah is ALWAYS funny. and on top of it, a theatre piece! double funny!! just like the classic stand up joke "the difference between black guys and white guys is...". i liked your little joke, josh.
That's nothing, I ordered a burger once and decided it was easier to tell them what I wanted on it rather than everything I wanted the to hold. I ordered a burger with "just lettuce, mayo, pickles, and onions." i wound up getting a lettuce, mayo, pickles, and onion sandwich with no burger.
BTW, this was at the San Diego Zoo, which I thought odd that they served meat.
not that anyone's reading anymore... but for this sort of joke to work there has to be clues. there were clues.
the harsh posts could have been "joke" replies offered no clues that they were in on the joke.
and the idea was not to pull one over on readers, or to fool them. the idea was that they would laugh along. the fact that some were offended(!) means they could have laughed alond instead, becaues they agreed.
Clues? How's this for starters: "World Premiere." It's in the fucking headline moron.
Just to add a sort of universal existential irony to this for me (why, oh WHY did I read all 10,000 comments on this joke, which was sort of limp to begin with), XM Radio is playing Eyesight to the Blind right this second.
I say take it a step further. Hire third-world immigrants and preteens to review the Police. Or the Stones.
That's not sarcasm.
People who insist that something like a Tommy remake has to be reviewed by someone with deep reverence to the source material... want reviews that kiss their ass, instead of ones that actually do the job reviews are supposed to do.
I'm starting to remember why I didn't go into journalism.
Okay, if y'all are still reading this and are actually Who fans, here's a treat.
Tanglewood, 1970 show, a blazing version of "Sparks",with Moon at the top of his game.
@88 - Brenda:
How about actually reading #87 before calling them a moron?
"not that anyone's reading anymore... but for this sort of joke to work there has to be clues. there were clues.
Why am I still reading this string of nonsense? Moving on!
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