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Last time I checked, buses ARE transit.

Posted by wf | June 20, 2007 2:31 PM
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My dreams of a functional mass transit system for Seattle are just that dreams. Our bussing system is okay if you work downtown M-F during regular business hours. Anything beyond that and frankly it sucks.

The problem is the realistic cost of any large transit option for Seattle and the fact voters can not seem to see it as an investment in Seattle vs. just a frivolous expense. Until we can swallow that reality we will only hear lots of great dreams with no actual action being taken.

Posted by Just Me | June 20, 2007 2:40 PM
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“Not mass transit, bus rapid transit,” Velazquez said, then repeated “bus rapid transit” three times.

I think Ms. Velazquez could have better phrased this, "Not rapid transit, bus rapid transit."

Both are good ideas—-buses run more smoothly when they have dedicated lanes, and cottage housing is a good way to add density to single-family neighborhoods—but I wish Velazquez was a little more unabashedly pro-density and pro-rapid transit; cottages and buses are interim solutions, not the solutions, to our housing and transit problems.

Hmm... Apparently, Velazquez has put her finger to the wind and her toe in the water and come away figuring it's the lesser Seattle NIMBY's who need to be feared. I think this is a great opportunity for the likes of Friends of Seattle to sharpen their teeth and make the unmistakable impression that it's the pro-density activists who need to be feared just as much.

P.S. I'm not against bus rapid transit in all cases, but let's face it, the very reason it gets suggested politically in contexts like this is to ensure that it makes so little impact that it ends up being anything but rapid.

Posted by cressona | June 20, 2007 2:43 PM
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I know it's part of your job but you are a saint for sitting through such things.

That’s what Bruce Harrell does. He gets things done. is awesome. I vote for that.

Posted by j | June 20, 2007 2:43 PM
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I feel like a saint for reading this entire post.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 20, 2007 2:48 PM
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Growing up in Seattle means you arent qualified to run Seattle. You have no real world experience with community planning.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 20, 2007 2:54 PM
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"People should only be allowed to run for office in the city a certain number of times—say, five—before they have to start paying increasingly prohibitive fees."

Wouldn't that have cost us the countless hours of enjoyment brought to us by Charlie Chong?

Posted by It's Mark Mitchell | June 20, 2007 2:57 PM
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Sorry, I spoke before I Googled. Charlie would have been fine.

Posted by It's Mark Mitchell | June 20, 2007 3:01 PM
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6. I fixed your post, Bellevue:

Growing up in Seattle means you arent qualified to run Seattle. You have no real world experience.

Posted by Gomez | June 20, 2007 3:08 PM
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Fuck bus only third avenue. How about making it a pedestrian/street car route. Nice wide sidewalks with a two way street car running down the middle. There would be space for street vendors and lots of trees and benches. With the right planning one could head from the stadiums to the Center either by foot or by street car. Oh and of course a nice wide bike lane.

Add a route up Jackson and Denny along with a couple more north/south routes and maybe we can start being a serious city.

Posted by Giffy | June 20, 2007 3:18 PM
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I was going to go that route, but it isnt even a debate when it comes to urban planning; Seattle doesn't have any and if you grew up here you wouldnt buck the trend.

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 20, 2007 3:19 PM
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I think the mainstream corporate media are safe for another generation if this level of political reporting is their competition.

Same goes for the present generation of community planners.

Posted by ivan | June 20, 2007 3:21 PM
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Runte is a Hubert Humphrey Democrat who wants to take from the rich and give to the poor and who can't beat Richard Nixon.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 20, 2007 3:23 PM
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We George McGovern Democrats think that "Hubert Humphrey" Democrats are sell-outs.

Posted by Jake of 8bitjoystick.com | June 20, 2007 3:25 PM
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"I grew up in Seattle" mean "I don't constantly get my panties in a bunch about whether or not we're 'world-class'" and "I don't have penis envy when I look at NYC." Frankly, those are both traits I'm looking for in a candidate.

Also, the term "public-private partnership" (or "P3", if you prefer) generally implies a combination of public ownership and control with private management. NOT a subsidy for private owners. I'll give you a pass, though, given the trauma caused by the closing of your favorite establishments. Waaah!

Posted by joykiller | June 20, 2007 3:26 PM
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"I grew up in Seattle" mean "I don't constantly get my panties in a bunch about whether or not we're 'world-class'" and "I don't have penis envy when I look at NYC." Frankly, those are both traits I'm looking for in a candidate.

Also, the term "public-private partnership" (or "P3", if you prefer) generally implies a combination of public ownership and control with private management. NOT a subsidy for private owners. I'll give you a pass, though, given the trauma caused by the closing of your favorite establishments. Waaah!

Posted by joykiller | June 20, 2007 3:28 PM
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Doesn't 3rd Ave go back to normal when the bus tunnel re-opens? By the way, when the hell does the tunnel re-open?

Posted by monkey | June 20, 2007 3:29 PM
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I like Venus, even if I don't necessarily agree with her about BRT as the only solution.

But ... at least she would stand up for people. And not be just another Yes vote.

That said, we need to get out of this "My Transit Solution Only!" "No, Mine!" mentality - the time has come to ...

BUILD THEM ALL!

We literally need - not want, NEED - to DOUBLE LOCAL TRANSIT. ALL of it. Not just Monorail (Al Runte's MagLev demo sounded intriguing). Not just BRT (already exists South of the Bus Tunnel). Not just Light Rail. Not just standard (hybrid bio-diesel or electric) bus service.

EVERYTHING.

Time to wake up and smell the reality, folks. Global warming is NOW. As is Peak Oil (actually, that's 2015, but close enough)

oh - and another thing - I noticed that Jean Godden's race just got a lot more interesting ... a number of people changed their minds about her seat at that forum. Who was that young woman running against her? All I can say is I was very surprised by the mood there.

Posted by Will in Seattle | June 20, 2007 3:38 PM
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joykiller:

"I grew up in Seattle" mean "I don't constantly get my panties in a bunch about whether or not we're 'world-class'" and "I don't have penis envy when I look at NYC."

I didn't grow up in Seattle, so I can't help but notice that an inordinate number of people who did like to talk about skyscrapers as phallic symbols. I guess if it weren't for Freud, Peter Steinbrueck's political career would never have gotten off the ground (sure there's a (stupid) pun somewhere there).

Actually, if we want to do some NYC comparisons... If I were Greg Nickels looking at Michael Bloomberg, I would have a serious case of cajones envy.

Posted by cressona | June 20, 2007 3:39 PM
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Cressona @ 19:

Anyone can buy cojones when they are multi-billionaires like Bloomberg. Hell, Howard Marshall bought Anna Nicole Smith.

Bloomberg is an elitist piece of shit who does not deserve anybody's support or vote.

Posted by ivan | June 20, 2007 3:54 PM
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No, he's not. He supported the smoking ban, he rides the subway to work, he's made unpopular choices that benefit the greater good. He's not my favorite, but I wouldn't put him in the POS category. There are some more deserving candidates.

Posted by no | June 20, 2007 4:21 PM
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Runte is a Hubert Humphrey Democrat and Safeco Field will be renamed, in his honor, the Alfred Runte Shittydome in 25 years.

Posted by Gomez | June 20, 2007 5:04 PM
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Any interesting notes on the Port races, Erica? Inquiring minds...

Posted by Jason B | June 20, 2007 5:16 PM
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I assume the remark about candidates running over and over and working out mental health issues in public related to ....er....one of the candidates.


But blame the hosts of the event -- who don't have the backbone or the wits to just deny that perennial loser candidate dude a spot in the debate.

They ought to protect you, the audience, from his meaningless drivel.
Not torture you with it!

But the prudish goo-goos rule, and it sucks.

Posted by Calvin | June 20, 2007 8:16 PM
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How does it cost you something for Stan to run for office?

Posted by whatever | June 20, 2007 9:10 PM
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I can't believe that you didn't mention Stan Lippman's (City Council Candidate) use of his two minutes to pitch for impeaching Dick Cheney.

Posted by watcher | June 20, 2007 9:46 PM
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Erica -

You're a saint!

Posted by JenK | June 20, 2007 11:31 PM
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@24 - there are rules for these sorts of things. The reality is anyone who's filed and isn't a declared Republican gets to speak.

But, hey, I suppose you'd rather we go back to your Bush Elite Party rule under His Royal Majesty, huh?

Posted by Will in Seattle | June 20, 2007 11:49 PM
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oh, I meant for non-partisan races - the bar is higher for partisan races ...

Posted by Will in Seattle | June 20, 2007 11:51 PM
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Alright, I was there last night.

Feldman—Promoting the Sonics at the 43rd? Real good move, slick.

Runte—He's a riot. His Robin Hood routine just isn't practical, though, and frankly, I'm looking for real solutions, not fairy tale machinations.

Harrell—This guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Not only does he contribute to Republicans, but Bob Dole appears to be his political mentor.

Velazquez—Clearly the best candidate we've seen in a long time. Erika, you rag on Venus for only talking about buses and cottage housing, but as I recall, the question was to talk about TWO strategies for dealing with growing density issues. I think Harrell blathered on about nothing for two minutes. As far as I'm concerned, Venus is the only candidate with any real ideas and the only one who's actually done this work in the trenches.

Posted by apigrrl | June 21, 2007 9:11 AM
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joykiller, so growing up in seattle means you are too self satisfied with mediocrity to actually make your life better?

Posted by Bellevue Ave | June 21, 2007 10:25 AM
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Will in Seattle @ 18 - Lauren Briel is the woman running against Jean Godden.

Posted by stacey in seattle | June 21, 2007 10:32 AM
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www.runteforcouncil.com

Posted by Andy | June 23, 2007 12:18 PM
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Will in Seattle (comment 18) -- Lauren Briel is runnign against Jean Godden. check out her website www.votelaurenbriel.com

I just looked through the Issues page on her site.

I think Lauren is the candidate to watch.

Posted by Adam | June 28, 2007 12:14 AM

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