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Umm, I know you're busy, but Fosse?

Posted by It's Mark Mitchell | June 29, 2007 9:01 AM
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Ah yes, my comment about Steen's critique of Spangethal has been nicely set up, kudos Savage.

About your What The Fuck? headline:

http://www.loosewireblog.com/2005/12/wikipedia_porn_.html

Posted by Garrett | June 29, 2007 9:01 AM
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um iphones don't go on sale until 6pm, and att supersized their edge network last night, so it should be a nonissue.

Posted by and | June 29, 2007 9:06 AM
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Shall We Search the House?


Seems that the Seattle Times is trying to play nice with the SPD... over at The PI...

A day laborer hired for the job had removed two bookshelves that had been covering the entrance of a 3-foot-high crawl space packed with boxes, Neth said. Under the boxes, Neth said he found a blue tarp covering a body on the crawl space's dirt floor


You know, Monk and Sherlock Holmes both would have looked behind the bookshelf. Always.

Posted by Phenics | June 29, 2007 9:07 AM
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You know what else produces deadly carcinogens? Buses. We should ban them. Or make drivers stop 25 feet away from the bus stop, turn off their engine, and then make us walk over to it as soon as the death is out of the air! Transit centers can't work, there are too many buses that do not turn off their engines and we're breathing in all of the death! It will build up in our lungs and we will wake up with Cancer the very next day. If it could save one life!

Oh, the kids! We simply must ban school buses as well! Diesel fuel exposes children to dangerous levels of carcinogens, causing their eyes to fall out and their lungs to melt. I have proof! Check out these bars and graphs. Poor lil' fellarz!

Yes, I am going to be a total goof today. Bwaaananana!

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 29, 2007 9:09 AM
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Posted by AJ | June 29, 2007 9:10 AM
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Was Anne Reinking at the top of her game?

I'd have loved to have seen the original cast.

Oy. Gwen and Chita.

I'm plotzing.

Posted by It's Mark Mitchell | June 29, 2007 9:23 AM
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Oops-eezz! My link isn't working! Here you go, but please be careful. The statistics are horrifying. You might cry.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 29, 2007 9:25 AM
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Poe, have you taken your pills this morning?

Posted by It's Mark Mitchell | June 29, 2007 9:28 AM
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Boy, Dan, you write one pro-War-in-Iraq piece and they never let you forget about it.

Posted by Mike in MO | June 29, 2007 9:28 AM
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Oh, god. I couldn't even get through 30 seconds of that little girl dancing. And right before lunch (east coast), damn you!

Posted by steve | June 29, 2007 9:32 AM
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Yes, AJ--I supported the war going in, for reasons I laid out years ago. It's all over my own website. It was a mistake, the biggest I ever made. (Well, after adding comments to Slog posts.) I wrote a piece almost two years ago--in August of 2005--calling for us to pull the fuck out already. The war was lost, and Bush lost it.

http://thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=22626

So... I was Murtha a year before Murtha was Murtha.

We the folks that opposed the war from the start right? Yep. Was I wrong? Yep. Could there have been a better outcome if we had sent more troops and not fatally mismanaged the occupation? (Read "The End of Iraq" and "Imperial Life in the Emerald City.") We'll never know.

But folks that opposed the war--including, I might add, folks who wrote pieces that I ran in The Stranger in opposition to the war, from Ted Rall to Neal Pollack to our own Josh Feit--were right. I was wrong.

Posted by Dan Savage | June 29, 2007 9:33 AM
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I think I took 2 many, yo!

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 29, 2007 9:35 AM
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Many people used to support the war and changed their minds. Their opposition now is just as legit and as informed as people who opposed it all along.

The reason religious fanatics target nightclubs is that fundys of all stripes cannot enjoy life and they resent anyone who does. Nightclubs were invented for the purpose of having fun and fundys hate that. For the same reason they hold the stupid idea that sex is only for procreation.

Posted by Mary | June 29, 2007 9:41 AM
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here's something else about the "what the fuck?" headline. The plot thickens, considerably:

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2007/06/wikipedia-anony.html

Posted by duncan | June 29, 2007 9:43 AM
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I'm going to make more of an effort to not buy things from China anymore. Clearly they are trying to poison us to death.

Posted by monkey | June 29, 2007 9:43 AM
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For all we know, poisoned food is a delicious treat, yo!

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 29, 2007 9:47 AM
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That is sad to hear about Mike Webb. In the early days of his show, he was fun to listen to. Towards the end he seemed to be more and more a bitter man that just liked to rant at people.

Posted by Tiffany | June 29, 2007 9:49 AM
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more evidence that it's impossible to overestimate bebe neuwirth's talent. thanks. that dame can dance!

Posted by josef | June 29, 2007 10:06 AM
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@19 True dat. An amazing dancer.

I must say though, my favorite clip this week was "The Rich Man's Frug"on Monday.

Posted by It's Mark Mitchell | June 29, 2007 10:15 AM
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Is there a practical logic for packing nails with a car bomb? I mean, what are the chances of nails flying straight and sticking into properties and passersby with more damage than, say, metal shards and ball bearings that would be both more space efficient and just as easy to buy/steal in a city the size of London?

Posted by Slip Mahoney | June 29, 2007 10:24 AM
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I'm sorry I'm so crotchety, but I just don't like the Neuwirth clip. I hate the music -- the song is pretty insipid, and the way the band sounds is just horrible, horrible, and I don't like the style of the dancing. The Chita and Gwen clip is a lot better, even though they aren't really very good dancers here either -- no athleticism at all, and they're a little clumsy -- but the music sounds rich and the song is emotionally resonant in a way that I just don't get from the modern thing at all, no matter how much more whip-snappy it is. It's all a pastiche, even the 70s one, but some pastiches are more fun than others. I don't think it's Fosse's fault, I think it's the times' fault.

Posted by Fnarf | June 29, 2007 10:27 AM
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Did we need more evidence of the awfulness of it all than the glimpse of Howard Cosmell (sic) at the end of the Rivera/Verdon clip???

jeez....

Posted by patrick | June 29, 2007 10:42 AM
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I've been frugging through my day all week. Seriously. And I am not a dancer.

Posted by It's Mark Mitchell | June 29, 2007 11:26 AM
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"Chicago" was prophetic..no question. It's one of those musicals that - given the right cast - takes your breath away. How can you transfer that exhilaration onto film?

In the original production, there was a sense that this was a swan song for Gwen and Chita (who went on to dance and dance and dance into her 70s). So, there was that bittersweet aspect of two old pros (by dancers' standards) saying goodbye.

I'm not completely sure, but I think Bebe and Ann were younger than Chita and Gwen when they did these roles. They were marvelous in the roles and both became the Toasts of Broadway, but you didn't get the feeling this was it (well, for Ann, maybe) for them. And of course, the film chose to go - in typical Hollywood fashion - with two women in their prime and, um, Richard Gere.

As I recall the sets of the 70s production weren't as dour as later productions. It could partly be why that production failed - the sets didn't match the subject matter and people were confused? Or maybe people just weren't in the mood for social comment in the 70s.

Posted by Bauhaus | June 29, 2007 12:16 PM
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"Chicago" was prophetic..no question. It's one of those musicals that - given the right cast - takes your breath away. How can you transfer that exhilaration onto film?

In the original production, there was a sense that this was a swan song for Gwen and Chita (who went on to dance and dance and dance into her 70s). So, there was that bittersweet aspect of two old pros (by dancers' standards) saying goodbye.

I'm not completely sure, but I think Bebe and Ann were younger than Chita and Gwen when they did these roles. They were marvelous in the roles and both became the Toasts of Broadway, but you didn't get the feeling that this was it (well, for Ann, maybe) for them. And of course, the film chose to go - in typical Hollywood fashion - with two women in their prime and, um, Richard Gere.

As I recall the sets of the 70s production weren't as dour as later productions. It could be why that production failed - the sets didn't match the subject matter and people were confused? Or maybe people just weren't in the mood for social comment in the 70s.

Posted by Bauhaus | June 29, 2007 12:17 PM
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There's no smugness of "having been right" when it comes to having opposed the invasion of Iraq; being right or admitting error doesn't bring back dead soldiers or civilians, or heal mortal wounds, or reunite families. I don't walk around with a scepter and a shash because I stood in opposition. I grieve.

What I objected to in your 2003 piece, what I will always object to, is the surly call for silence from people of a different opinion. Yes, anti-war protests were often terrible--they'd suddenly become about saving the spotted owl, or the rights of trees, and that is well worth criticism.

The hard thing wasn't that someone took a position opposed to mine--people I know and respect do that all the time. It was the arrogant and irresponsible demand for people to shut up and get on the band wagon. The editor of a major metropolitan newspaper, especially, should know better than this, and your stock tanked with me because of it. It diminished you, and I take no joy in that at all.

I'm officially shutting up about DAMF. Others won't, nor should they; you know you have to live with this the rest of your career, and I'd hazard to say it's a worthy burden.

Posted by Boomer in NYC | June 29, 2007 1:17 PM

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