...we know. Dan already covered this.
Wow. I think he used the very same pulley strangle move on Hogan back in 98.
1. Not really. Dan linked the story to help defend his Every Child argument. He and others weren't really feeling a discussion on the issue.
It was discussed a little bit, but I'm glad Charles posted this, as this is something that probably warrants its own discussion one way or another. What a terrible tragedy for all involved.
Ah, maybe you should not marry someone with the nickname "Crippler". I mean for most of us that would be a red flag....
This is where it is going to get sticky. The WWE (Vince McMahon) cancelled last night's scheduled "bouts" er ... performances. INstead they showed a loving tribute to Benoit with words from alll of his former wrestling pals and a highlight reel of all of his matches.
They were celebrating his life. A life full of steroid abuse, domestic violence ... wait they didn't include any of that.
Anyways, it was prior to the cause of death was announced, but could that have been any less classless ... wait this is the WWE, they will surely exploit it in the months to come.
you too can gain muscle definition and mass w/ steroids, but there is a slight downside: testicular shrinkage, acne and one other thing...murderous, suicidal tendancies. think i'll stick to being a wimpy, thin guy w/ nice skin and nice package.
I gotta say...the SLOG has been very boring today.
Every child needs a ????
"Steroids found at wrestler's house of death."
Mudede's pejorative use of the phrase lacks the usual rationalizations expounding upon his mindset behind the use of the phrase. In fact, it is formated to appear as a declarative; an appeal to unknowns over his helpless to explain the stated tragedy rationally.
This almost (almost) makes me wonder, is Mudede off his game today, or does this belie a certain plebian attraction to the most un-Marxian of plebian sport: professional wrestling?
However, Hegel would be down with Mudede's fandom for the WWE, as well as the role of the WWE in American, and by extention, Global society, so all is good.
Must be an off day.
el, wrestlers possessing steroids is like the sun coming up in the morning. However, they don't spontaneously decide to go home and kill their families before work on a weekend. The worst that happens is they occasionally get depressed and/or get in fights with other guys.
Don't Canadian's support gay marriage and adoption?
It was the words "house of death" that got to me. It sounds more like a name for a horror movie than a headline from a "reputable" news source.
People still watch wresting. Thats the true tragedy of this story.
A friend of mine watched the CNN press conference and dug up some other info from other sources. This goes way, way beyond roid rage.
"TMZ.com is reporting more details on the Benoit Family tragedy. According to a TMZ source, Benoit was texting friends during the Vengeance pay-per-view and may have watched the event with his son who may have still been alive at the time."
"In speaking with close friends and confidants of Chris Benoit contacted this afternoon, apparently there were some warning signs that something was wrong with Benoit.
Some of the information learned by 1Wrestling.com by colleagues and friends that did not want to be quoted:
"This wasn't roid rage, this was insanity. Roid rage doesn't last for 48 hours. There were signs that something was wrong. Stories have emerged that a year ago he became paranoid and believed he was being followed. He wouldn't let Nancy leave the house because he believed someone was out to get them."
"Chris hated religion. He didn't believe in it. I cannot comprehend him putting bibles by the bodies. I am shocked."
Sources close to Nancy reported that she had a safety deposit box with evidence of past rages and that authorities should check the box if anything ever happened to her."
District Attorney Scott Ballard was interviewed on CNN Headline news:
- Ballard said Nancy Benoit was killed sometime on Friday, Daniel on Saturday morning, and Benoit killed himself Saturday night.
- According to the medical examiner, Nancy was found with bruise marks on her back which is consistent with a knee being placed on her back, bruising on the front of her body suggesting she had been pressed against the floor, and her neck indicated she had been strangled.
- There is no indication Daniel tried to make contact with anyone after his mother had been killed.
- There were needle marks in Daniel's arm, suggesting he was taking growth hormones for quite sometime. okay, WHAT
- Ballard suggested that Benoit may have killed his son with a chokehold.
- Text messages from Benoit indicated that Nancy and Daniel were sick (probably sent when Nancy and Daniel had already been killed), and one messaged indicated that the pets needed to be let out.
- Dr. Alan Lipman, also interviewed by CNN, suggested that in the past, Benoit broke furniture in the home and threatened Nancy.
13. I see your point, el. And this is not to deny that the guy was out of his mind, but only that there's a common denominator at play other than steroids.
Was he hung by the chimney with care?
meth makes people paranoid like that. His body looks like one of a 40 year old who does steroids, growth hormone, and meth.
Pure speculation, mind you. I've seen it though, too many times.
I am a fan of wrestling, so I thought I'd contribute a little to this awful tragedy.
WWE, the company that employed Benoit, just ran a storyline in which Mr. McMahon, a character who is the real life owner of the company, was "supposedly killed" in a limo explosion. The next part to the story was to come last night.
The vast majority of the internet wrestling community was appalled at this storyline, for the very reasons that have recently occurred with Chris Benoit.
This is a tragedy, to be sure, I just hope its not taken as an opportunity to bash the "fakeness" of wrestling, but to cure an epidemic that has stressed the wrestling community in the use of steroids and other medications.
It's too bad that the Vince McMahon story is the fiction and not the Benoit story.
I consider McMahon part of the Axis of Evil that includes Rupert Murdoch and Dick Cheney.
I love the peanut gallery!
Jaye, why shouldn't we bash the fakeness of wrestling?
Its just like any other TV show. It requires suspension of belief. Do you believe that there is a guy named J.R. who got shot in Dallas?
The wrestling world should show more discretion in their story-lines as wrestling once was portrayed as real, however, I believe it should be held with similar regard to a television show.
20. Vince McMahon really is, for all his bravado, a rather terrible human being, and the sad indictment of the wrestling business is that, even given this, he's probably one of the most honest people in the business despite it.
from Perez Hilton....
In divorce papers filed in 2003, Nancy Benoit included a petition for protection from domestic abuse against Chris. In the papers, Nancy claimed that Benoit, “lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture.” Nancy added that she was, “in reasonable fear for petitioner’s own safety and that of the minor child.”
Three months later, Nancy filed to have the divorce papers and the restraining order dismissed. A short time later, a judge granted her wish.
Hopefully the WWE will now stop eulogizing this monster.
Yet more fake news, just like the fake death of their CEO (which they had to admit to the SEC).
Will in Seattle's comments are exactly why the business needs to be more sensitive. Here is a man who killed his wife and son, but is written off because of stupid writing.
The other piece to this story is that there are suppositions that the murder occurred during a domestic dispute. Benoit's wife was a wrestler as well, and its very possible that the death was a scuffle gone too far. Benoit killed his son afterward, supposedly because he did not want his son to grow up to know his father was a murderer. If anything, Benoit had gone insane.
Chris Benoit was human. Not less, not more. And perhaps he is worthy of our contempt, but I believe that this is an exercise in judgment. Should we judge an individual for a truly horrific episode in his life?
I don't think so.
@27: "Should we judge an individual for a truly horrific episode in his life?
I don't think so."
As opposed to a whole life time?
If he only took his own life I would agree with you, Jaye @27 & @29, but he didn't. He killed his wife and a SEVEN YEAR OLD CHILD before he did that.
I am okay with judging him. You don't kill seven year olds. You don't kill your wife. Killing is bad, emkay???
Now, having said that, knowing what I know and where I have been, I can safely say that I believe that the person who did the killing is a different person than he was before he started doing the steroids and (I believe most likely) meth or coke. So, if it makes you feel better, I am okay with blaming the drugs. But in a court of law, the drugs wouldn't go to jail, the person who abused them would.
I guess it depends on your definition of "judging". If you mean it in the purest, most Christlike way, no, I don't judge him. But, in the earthly, practical way, I most surely do.
Guilty as charged, your honor.
I agree with @28 - but it's still fake news.
Trust me. You Yanks are so gullible sometimes, it's sad.
I thought it was an angle too, when the WWE's statements were the only cited. Then the autopsy reports came back from GA.
Guy just probably realized he was just another middle-aged guy in spandex.
Feel sorry for the kid's grandmother.
I read that the son was mentally handicap.
I think this is just horrible. IF the wife was killed first, and the son was killed the next day... can you even imagine how horrible his last hours were? Did he even know what was going on? He must have been so confused. How horrible.
I used to watch WWF... always thought Chris Benoit seemed like a jerk.
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