Slog - Comments on Sullivan on Massachusetts http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts Andrew Sullivan is the most passionate, eloquent, and effective voice for marriage equality in the United States. A vocal and prominent proponent of same-sex marriage before any national gay groups would touch the issue, Sullivan has done more--through his blog, his books, and his advocacy--to advance the cause of marriage equality than any other single individual in the country. (Freedom to Marry's Evan Wolfson comes in a very, very close, photo-finish second.) Sullivan's willingness to pick anti-marriage equality arguments apart is as invaluable as his ability to skin dishonest anti-gay marriage pundits alive is entertaining. And here is Sullivan's moving... Copyright 2008 Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:57:08 -0800 Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:13:45 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Mark Mitchell That is beautiful.

]]> Mark Mitchell http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c743978 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c743978 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:02:16 -0800 Comment by bitch on heels *resume crying like an even bigger baby*

]]> bitch on heels http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c743979 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c743979 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:03:42 -0800 Comment by Fnarf I want to say congratulations, but I believe it's as big a victory for straight people as it is for gay people. You get some of your rights acknowledged, finally; and we get to live in a more just society. I'm very happy, and very proud.

Just 49 states to go!

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c743989 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c743989 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:11:47 -0800 Comment by monkey I'd like to point out that Andrew Sullivan didn't actually write that, Darren did. But still, amen.

I wish my parents and sisters weren't part of that generation we're all waiting to die off to gain tolerance.

What's really sad, or more sad, is my 14 year old niece sets off my gaydar like no other has. They don't see it but it's going to slap them in the face. I can't help but wonder if they will react differently to their grandchild coming out than they did to their own child coming out.

And if I here that Mary Cheney and family are now going to move to MA I'm going to scream.

]]> monkey http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c743993 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c743993 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:17:03 -0800 Comment by Sachi Well said, Fnarf. It's a pity that not all straights understand how much a victory it is for every man, every woman, and every child in this country.

]]> Sachi http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c743995 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c743995 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:17:36 -0800 Comment by Callie I am a single, straight 25 year old woman who believes fully in marriage equality but is in no way any sort of activist, and that just made me cry. At my desk.

]]> Callie http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744008 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744008 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:26:08 -0800 Comment by Rebecca I agree. I cried first when I saw the photo he used and second when I read the post. Andrew, like you, Dan, and the men and women who fought so hard to keep the ban off the ballot, are my gay heroes!

]]> Rebecca http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744013 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744013 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:27:42 -0800 Comment by 2lesbianmoms Perfect :)

]]> 2lesbianmoms http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744033 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744033 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:45:32 -0800 Comment by Prospero I wish Sullivan was as liberal on other issues (he was a big backer of Bush and the Iraq war before both went to hell) as he is on this one. Still, nicely put.

]]> Prospero http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744041 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744041 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:50:40 -0800 Comment by Gomez If a piece is truly moving, you can let it be so without talking down to us and telling us that that's how we're supposed to think of it as.

Let the work stand on its own. Don't tell us how to think.

]]> Gomez http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744054 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744054 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:07:54 -0800 Comment by arduous @4, I'm confused. Who is Darren?

]]> arduous http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744062 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744062 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:12:28 -0800 Comment by Original Monique I agree with Fnarf, Sachi, and Callie. I am straight and this makes me so happy. The pictures, the wonderful words, and this historic moment are all so amazing to me. It truly warms my heart that there are good people out there, who know how wrong it is to deny rights to other human beings.

I can only hope that Washington will wise up and get equality to all the citizens here. I'll do whatever I can to help. =)

]]> Original Monique http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744069 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744069 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:18:49 -0800 Comment by Jonathan Um. Dan. Bullshit. And you know it. The "the most passionate, eloquent, and effective voice for marriage equality in the United States" is Evan Wolfson, who started the modern movement for marriage equality, who has spent countless hours involved in conceiving, litigating, and effecting marriage equality in the United States.

Here's Evan's wikipedia entry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Wolfson

You know damned well I'm right. Give credit where credit is due.

]]> Jonathan http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744072 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744072 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:22:33 -0800 Comment by Jonathan Let me rephase that with a little more nuance. It is impossible to imagine the Massachusetts decision without Evan Wolfson's efforts. It is very easy to imagine it without Andrew Sullivan's.

]]> Jonathan http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744078 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744078 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:27:21 -0800 Comment by zzyzx Yesterday was a great day. I'm straight but I couldn't understand why it would affect my relationships at all if other people could have theirs treated the same. Hopefully, we'll be celebrating this in Washington one day soon.

]]> zzyzx http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744085 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744085 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:34:26 -0800 Comment by Amy Jo monkey, Darren McCollester of Getty is the photographer of the pic Sullivan used in his post.

]]> Amy Jo http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744089 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744089 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:39:39 -0800 Comment by monkey AHA! The way he posted it it looked like the piece was written by Darren.

Thanks for the clarification, Amy Jo, and just everyone please pretend that the first sentence in post #4 doesn't exist, k, thanks.

]]> monkey http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744114 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744114 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:17:18 -0800 Comment by jhell Dan, you're not too shabby yourself!

]]> jhell http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744300 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c744300 Homo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:46:02 -0800 Comment by msulgzwoa qyvf enrly pnrtwh thkem ezai owyeam uqnhv rvif

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]]> msulgzwoa qyvf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c751563 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/sullivan_on_massachusetts#c751563 Homo Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:13:45 -0800