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Thursday, June 14, 2007

Marriage Under Attack!

posted by on June 14 at 9:46 AM

It’s just like the conservatives have been telling us! Marriage is under attack! Under siege! A Democratic controlled legislature is threatening the institution of marriage!

I’m not talking about California’s Dem-contolled legislature, which once again voted to strengthen marriage by making its rights and obligations available to same-sex couples. (And once again Arnold Schwarzenegger is expected to veto the bill.) I’m talking about the Dem-contolled legislature in Massachusetts, which is voting today on a proposed ban on same-sex marriage at a state Constitutional Convention.

Same-sex couples have been able to legally marry in Massachusetts for three years, and thousands of gay and lesbian couples have married there. Heterosexual marriages have not been harmed; Massachusetts continues to have the lowest divorce rate in the country.

If the Dem-controlled state legislature in Massachusetts approves the proposed ban and sends it on to voters, and the voters approve it, the marriages of thousands of same-sex couples in Massachusetts will be destroyed.

Protesters for and against the proposed ban on same-sex marriage have gathered in front of the State House where the legislators are voting. Says one anti-marriage protester…

I respect everybody, gays or lesbians, but they have to respect our values too, said [Cesar] Munera, who lives in Watertown. Im here and I believe God is going to do something special today.

And all gays and lesbians have to do to show “respect” for Munera’s values is quietly accept second-class citizenship. Is that really too much to ask?

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Well Munera should respect my cats religion. My cat says that in her religion all people should be equal, but people who believe in god should be shot.

Yep, she was like "meow, meow, meow, bang bang".

So please Munera, go shoot yourself. Cause that is like, respecting my cats religion.

Posted by Original Monique | June 14, 2007 9:57 AM

It may be democraticly controled Dan but they need 75% of the vote to stop it. Your storys just a bit miss leading. It makes it seem like they are not doing every thing they can to turn the 8 votes they need. Every thing I've seen says otherwise.

Thinking ahead if it does pass wouldn't it be great if the vote failed..

Posted by CodyBolt | June 14, 2007 9:59 AM

We're waiting until we have full marriage rights, which I realize might mean never getting married. But I realize that's a luxury. We have understanding families who would never bar one of us from a hospital room, or try to overturn a will.

On some level, I can't believe there's actually a "debate" about such a basic civil right, but I was raised when we still had some version of a separation between church and state, and a workable system of checks and balances.

Posted by Mark Mitchell | June 14, 2007 10:00 AM

"Any minority should submit themselves to the majority," Mansour continued.

So if everybody with a star on their arm could just get into the cattle car in an orderly fashion...

Fucking asshat.

Posted by Lushy J | June 14, 2007 10:02 AM

well, i surely don't think it's such a bad thing being a second class citizen, as long as we have mexicans and blacks in third. i wish there was a FORTH class, but that's me. i'm a snob and a climber. ask anyone.

Posted by adrian! | June 14, 2007 10:03 AM

How did some countries in Europe manage to move away from this nonsense but we have not?

Posted by Tiffany | June 14, 2007 10:12 AM

tiffany @ #6: they are smarter and cuter.

Posted by josh | June 14, 2007 10:21 AM

i believe i just read that the Mass. legislature just defeated the measure by a 3-1 ratio, ensuring it will never get to the voters.

Posted by jameyb | June 14, 2007 10:24 AM

Amendment is defeated! Pro-amendment side only got 44 votes!


Posted by CodyBolt | June 14, 2007 10:26 AM

@8 and @9 -- So now, someone should turn around to Munera and say "Any minority should submit themselves to the majority. Minority."

Posted by Kat | June 14, 2007 10:30 AM

Oh, by the way betch... FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU! FUUUCK YOUUU!!!

Posted by monkey | June 14, 2007 10:34 AM

I'd say something if I didn't know that it's already been said a billion times before.

Fuckin' A.

Posted by Mr. Poe | June 14, 2007 10:35 AM

sweet deal. thanks for the news @ #8 & #9.

Posted by josh | June 14, 2007 10:35 AM

I guess back in slavery south Munera would have supported blacks taking over, since they out-manned the whites 3-1.
And here I thought our founding fathers set up the system of representational government so the minority wouldn't be subject to the whims of the majority.
There really should be an ongoing history class for every citizen so people can actually understand this great county of ours.

Posted by Enigma | June 14, 2007 10:42 AM
Posted by flink | June 14, 2007 10:43 AM

Oh, hey, lookie what we just did in Massachusetts! Blocked an attempt to make gay marriage a yes/no voter referendum. Boy howdy...

Posted by Ziggity | June 14, 2007 10:44 AM

Tiffany @ 6,

British Columbia legalized same sex marriage in 2003 along with several other provinces, and Canada legalized it nationwide in 2005. Even the Conservative Party said that they'd never allow a public vote because having a majority vote on the rights of a minority that they hate is immoral.

Here in the US conversely, hatred and hostility towards the well-being of minorities is deeply ingrained in our society. We also have the largest population of sadistic religious fanatics outside the Middle East, who think that a supernatural being has given them the moral authority to condemn everyone who's not exactly like them. I'd call it a fundamental flaw in our culture.

Posted by Original Andrew | June 14, 2007 10:44 AM

"any minority should submit itself to the majority"? That has to be the most un-American sentiment I've ever seen. Think about what the original settlers here were after; they were escaping the tyranny of the majority, who would no longer let them impose their weirdo religious beliefs on the rest of the population. This country was FOUNDED by religious minorities.

I have a suggestion for anyone who thinks minorities and uppity women should just pipe down, homosexuals should stay in the closet, and religion should influence law. There's a country you'd probably like much better than this one - a country where uppity women or women who have sex or get abortions or use birth control can be put in prison, where minorities, including religious minorities, can be oppressed with impunity, where all law is based on the majority religion, and where homosexuals can be put to death. It's called Iran. Look into it, why don't you - I think you'd be much happier there.

Posted by Geni | June 14, 2007 3:06 PM

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