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I don't understand what this means.

GRR I wish I could hate him to death!

prohibiting discrimination … which means of course, permitting discrimination against gays and lesbians. ???

what the fuck is up with the carpool one and the prayer one (which isnt timmy's)

@3 - I guess the assumption is that this initiative would "prohibit discrimination" against christians who believe gays are bad by permitting them to discriminate against gays in employment, renting of apartments, running over with cars, etc.

@5,

Something like that. Typically, the reactionary approach is to say that gay rights discriminate against straights by creating "preferences." Eyman's initiative will undoubtedly say something about "no preferences."

And yeah, wow, that school prayer one is nuts! Do they have to allow initiatives on the ballot that are blatantly anti-constitutional?

@3 You might have been thrown off by "of course"

Looking forward to more "quotes", assumptions, and general fuzzy math handed to us by the media/The Stranger.

So Gene, what's your guess on what an Eyman-sponsored initiative that is supposedly about "prohibiting discrimination" would be about? Based on his track record, I'd say it's pretty much a no-brainer. We've been down this road before.

The logical assumption would be that the carpool lane initiative will say something typically regressive like, "no new carpool lanes shall ever be built." I'm going to bet my money on something a little more Eymanish, like, say, "if gays are caught they shall be thrown from a moving car onto the carpool lane."

I'd say it's a combination of #5 and #6. YOUR initiative, Levislade, in attempting an explanation, prompted the post's author to weasle in and "clarify", of course.

I suspect the carpool lane initiative is to open them up to general traffic. That kind of thing is pretty popular with the Sound Politics crowd.

The carpool lane initiative is probably one of the stupidest things Eyman has ever proposed (and it's got some fierce competition)...Duh, if you open the carpool lane to traffic, it will slow all lanes of traffic equally proportionately, and the difference it makes in flow of traffic becomes negligible.

Um, isn't there another one, gathering signature's at the Ballard Fred Meyer, that proports to be about "lower insurance rates"?

Something about that looked really fishy.

13 plus it creates less incentive to carpool thus putting more people in cars and causing more traffic.

generally you create an incentive to help reduce a problem at the expense of people who wont take you up on the incentive.

@14 This relates to a newly passed law that allows suits against insurance companies that allow for triple damages if a claim is settled unfairly. Sounds nice, but the law fails to define unfairly.

Since insurance companies are regularly sued, tripling the damages means higher claims, higher claims expense, and therefore, increased rates for all drivers. That's a pay raise for me, since my commission is a set percentage of premium, but I'd still rather we not have auto insurance rates like California's.

And what are we worried about as far as Eyman goes? His ability to actually get initiatives on the ballot has all but disappeared, and his ability to get them passed is coming up on its second yahrzeit.

It seems like only yesterday that Timmy Eyman was on the television, in tears, telling us all how sorry he was that he stole money from his supporters.

He is a total sleazebucket.

He's back! I hope this means more cosplay to laugh at.

So when was the last time Eyman actually got enough signatures to get something on the ballot, and then have it actually be approved by the voters?

...anyone?

@16 - yeah, but doesn't that act as an incentive to bike or walk to work, or take the bus?

Why you be hatin on our vibe?

Getting rid of carpool lanes is a non-starter, even if the voters approve it. The feds pony up money for all those highways, not just the state, and they make certain requirements in return, like HOV lanes. They cannot be eliminated without the approval of the Federal Highway Administration and that's not gonna happen. Blame Big Brother Timmy.

We're exploring various potential initiative proposals. The one on 'prohibiting discrimination' relates to saving I-200, an initiative the voters approved in 1998 relating to race, sex, color, ethnicity, and national origin. Since its overwhelming passage, several governments have put loopholes in it and the courts have misinterpreted what "no preferential treatment" means when it comes to race, sex, color, ethnicity, and national origin in public education, public employment, and public contracting. The 59% of the electorate who approved I-200 wanted state and local governments to simply treat everyone equally and wanted the government and the courts to respect its policies, not undermine them. Sexual orientation wasn't included in I-200 and so it's not included in this initiative.

Interestingly, there's a U.S. Supreme Court case coming out soon which provides one example of what I'm referring to when it comes to I-200. The State Supreme Court said that Seattle's "racial tiebreaker" school policy did not violate I-200. By any reasonable reading of the initiative, the State Supreme Court should have invalidated Seattle's "racial tiebreaker." Because they didn't, it was appealed to the SCOTUS, and their upcoming U.S. Supreme Court ruling, which is due any day now, is widely expected to overturn this policy for Seattle schools and possibly schools throughout the nation. Again, this is just one example of Washington state's courts and the Legislature misinterpreting and undermining I-200.

@23: But of course you have no problems discriminating against us homos when it comes to things like marriage or equality regarding sexual orientation. I take it frat boy watch sales are down.

@21 God's honest truth, I wouldn't shed a tear if everyone in this city sold their car and started biking. Car insurance is the most difficult thing to sell and underwrite. I'd much rather be working on homeowners, commercial, life, or even renters.

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