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be careful of what you wish for.

an empty lot is preferable to the piece of crap townhomes plaguing the city. for a stark, depressing example, visit the 2 blocks east of aurora & north of 85th.

"i wouldn't live there if you paid me" - talking heads, the great country

Posted by maxsolomon | June 15, 2007 11:01 AM

Jonah! Don't tell people you drive! You're going to ruin our bike nazi rep.

Posted by Dan Savage | June 15, 2007 11:05 AM

It's OK, my car is powered by my own sense of self satisfaction.

Posted by Jonah S | June 15, 2007 11:16 AM
an empty lot is preferable to the piece of crap townhomes plaguing the city. for a stark, depressing example, visit the 2 blocks east of aurora & north of 85th.
Those town homes are fine. They beat the hell out of the run down ram shackle trailer park that was there before.
Posted by Angry Andrew | June 15, 2007 11:23 AM

I agree--Jonah. The government should seize the property of *everyone* who holds onto their property in the greedy and non-productive hope that it will continue to appreciate in value and turn it over to those who will develop it to its highest and best use.

Posted by NapoleonXIV | June 15, 2007 11:25 AM

hey Jonah~

Did you used to go to new years eve parties in this neighborhood? Around 92nd and 5th NE? Mike and Kara's place...

Just trying to figure out if you are THAT jonah.


Posted by wisepunk | June 15, 2007 11:25 AM

I live over in that area too...there's a little triangle where Maple Leaf and Wedgwood meet the north part of Ravenna that is crying out for development. Let it happen!

Posted by Matthew | June 15, 2007 11:26 AM

Looks like the perfect space to put a Walgreens.

I kid.

Posted by elswinger | June 15, 2007 11:27 AM

@ 6- No, I don't think that was me.

@ 8- There's already a Walgreens about a mile away on Northgate. I just wish there was a decent bar in my neighborhood.

Posted by Jonah S | June 15, 2007 11:38 AM

i just moved to this neighborhood from capitol hill and i agree that there's no good bars around. the jones? meh. it'll do in a pinch. same with maple leaf grill, which is more like a restaurant. the res is a little too scary for me. am i missing anything? where do maple leafers hang out?

Posted by b | June 15, 2007 11:46 AM

On the other hand there is a place on the otherside of Maple Leaf on 15th that people are trying to save from development, destroying the urban forest that is there. See Why do we need 40 cottage homes displacing trees and birds already in decline?

Posted by Jennifer | June 15, 2007 11:49 AM

I think we should forcibly relocate Jonah S there and use his car to pay for the relocation costs.

I'm sure we can find a FEMA trailer for him.

Posted by Will in Seattle | June 15, 2007 12:09 PM

Wait, relocate me where? Waldo? No.

@ 10- There are no good bars. The res is cheap but totally inconsistent. My last few visits to the Maple Leaf Grill have been disappointing and I just haven't made it to The Jones. It doesn't look like a bar I would enjoy.

@ 11- I wrote about Waldo a few weeks ago. The neighborhood is in the process of getting it declared as a historic site. I'm all for the preservation of the trees but the building is hideous.
I'm more excited/amazed/frightened by the prospect of the city capping the reservoir and turning the area into a massive park.

Posted by Jonah S | June 15, 2007 12:18 PM

I almost bought the house directly next to that lot. The house was beautifully designed (by a real-estate agent, even!) so that there were only a couple small windows facing the Roosevelt Street direction. The other windows faced 89th and the neighbors, who had a relatively large lot.

Two problems, though. First, I assumed that a 4-story condo would go up overlooking the very long strip of backyard, making it impossible to enjoy the backyard once that happened, and requiring a year or more of endurance of construction next door.

Second, the backyard is adjacent to Judy Fu's. Now I love Snappy Dragon. Don't get me wrong. But they have reasonably long hours and they deliver. So there would be the constant smell of hand shaved noodles and the constant coming and going of vehicles.

My wife and I opted not to buy the house, as much as we liked it, which was quite a lot. It did get sold and I hope the new owners have enjoyed the relative quiet given that the burned-down area has been unbuilt so far.

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Posted by Glenn Fleishman | June 15, 2007 12:29 PM

I've lived next to a couple of empty lots in the past and they can be a nightmare in their own special way. If you don't wind up with squatters or homeless taking up residence, you can often count on jackasses dumping their garbage in the lot.

Posted by keshmeshi | June 15, 2007 12:55 PM

Even here in thousand-dollar-a-square-foot-shoulder-to-shoulder San Francisco, there's an amazing amount of dead and empty lots, burnt-never-to-be-rebuilt buildings, and unused warehouses.

I'm sure there's a million reasons why these spaces occur, but the only scenario I ever imagine is the proverbial insane property owner, living far away in a huge house, surrounded by piles and piles of old newspapers, who's children will occasionally check in on in anticipation of the day they inherit all that "big city property".

Posted by Dougsf | June 15, 2007 12:56 PM

@10: Cooper's on Lake City Way.

Decent food, too!

Posted by Big Adventure Steve | June 15, 2007 12:59 PM

Coopers has some great sandwiches but it's super obnoxious there on weekends.

It's also a bit far from my place.

I think I'm gonna have to go there and get a sandwich tonight. Mmmm.

Posted by Jonah S | June 15, 2007 1:26 PM

LOL Dan. As if him being anywhere near 89th and Roosevelt wasn't a prime indicator that he drives.

While I'd live to defend the guy's right to property, he's doing absolutely nothing with a piece of property because of some mental psychosis. He needs to give it up and move on with whatever life he has left.

That's if his excuse is above board. I think this is just his stated excuse, and he's just holding out for a big sale to the first person or entity willing to make a crazy bid way above its value.

Posted by Gomez | June 15, 2007 2:28 PM

The townhomes a few blocks north are very beautiful. What helps is when they have doors facing the street and a porch or stoop (stairway) -- instead of a blank cedar fence that shows the neighborhood the structure's "backside."
Don't blame townhomes in general -- blame the lack of design review & an uneducated market.

Posted by Bill | June 15, 2007 7:35 PM

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