Well, all I can say is THANK GOD there were poets there. It might have been too boring otherwise.
@2 Do you not notice the DAMF headings that Dan puts on the daily news whenever there's bad news from Iraq?
Anyways, I was wondering why we don't have a process for citizens to fire appointed officials. It seems like if we could vote the chief out of office, public opinion would matter a bit more. Mind you, I say this with a great deal of trepidation about allowing more Seattle process into the way our city is run.
# 2 awful troll
.. no really .. your momma.. because she prolly supported the war back then .. and if she didn't one of her friends did.. or somebody else you know, love, or respected did..and they was wrong like millioms of other sorry people were.and they realize this now as dan surely has. and even though dan has recanted that position and apologized for his terrible mistake, here you are with nothing else better to do interrupting what might be a fruitful conversation about another issue that matters with your rant.. well .. as one who opposed the war, and dan at the time, that was then and this is now. would you keep on track about this thing here and at least save your sour milk vitriol for that other conversation when it happens.. the one about the war.. you'll get your chance to bring it up again in a matter of moments..but could you bother somebody else with this right now and let us get back to the matter at hand..
thank you very much
Off topic trolling gets deleted.
thanks jonah.. thanks.. and everybody else nevermind..
Regular crowd. Nothing suprising, outragous, or meaningfull.
Does anyone actually get all riled up about the stuff anymore? Its kinda like being suprised when, after eating a dicks deluxe, you get the shits.
we just cain't win for losin..
fuckin trolls.. at least this one is one topic..
I've pondered that same thought myself.
I think it's meaningful in that the speakers at this rally weren't preaching to the choir. They actually picked a pretty meaningful location, during rush hour downtown. Much more useful than Westlake on a Saturday afternoon.
James Bible gave a great speech. Too bad he's not running for city council.
Huh? Don't like hearing something that offends you sensitive sensibilities? Someones a troll if they aren't just like you?
Go spin some tunes and decry the actions of white men everywhere.
Oh and James Bible is a tool. I doubted that the Seattle NAACP could get anymore irrelevant, then I saw this guy on TV "demanding" that the Cheif resign.
I gave me the giggles. Clowns always do.
you're not a troll because i disagree with you.. you're a troll because you spend your days being so damned disagreeable.. it's what you do, your raison d'etre. and it's impossible to engage a meaningful conversation with you because you're always so steeped in bitterness..
i love you last post @11 ' i give me the giggles. clowns always do.'
By the way the person in the last three photographs is, I think, Anwar Peace.
How come Seattle liberals are making young people & hip hop artists stand alone on this? They were well-represented at this rally. Older civil-rights supporters were not so much. Come on folks -- videos of lying cops on the web for all to see, bloodied young people who had the temerity to criticize a police officer on the front page. Reporters and the youth, and Bible, are doing their job. Please actually go out & do something if you care about this issue!! It's kind of now or never here.
when is hip hop going to stop attacking gay people?
fuck it. Im tired of market segments and minority inclusion.
when is hip hop going to stop attacking gay people?
slap yourself immediately.
I say if the Mayor does not fire the police chief we hold a recall election and remove the Mayor from office. But first can we do a recall election?
Where is my morning news. I do no-no want to go to drudge.
@15--these hip-hoppers don't attack gay people. hip-hop isn't a monolithic entity.
@21 That's right hip hop isn't a monolithic entity. There is a group for instance that likes to call women HOs. Ahhh, is this on topic? Or is it just OK with DJ Riz and Jonah because it's not criticizing Dan Savage for his support of the war and the resulting death of tens of thousands, the maiming of even more, and the 2,000,000 Iraqis who have been driven from their homes? Hey, Jonah, I'm just asking. Don't delete me. HOw on topic must comments be. Can they be a little off topic as long as they don't bring up past articles by Stranger staff?
then why are people treating itself as such? "hip hop was the only one out there..."
you cant establish the hip hop community as one then get pissy when one attributes bad things to it. groups dont wholly get to define themselves.
@23 Ok, OK This is completely off topic This thread is about the police. You are off topic and you and yo momma who prolly supported the war must go. Jonah, boot this guy!!!!!
The photos in this post show a lot of WLs (white liberals). I guess they're under represented, but it looks like quite a few turned up.
is "you supported the war" supposed to be an insult? or is that the kind of language retards converse in today?
Hip hop is relevant to the conversation as it was a large important part of yesterday's rally. Dan's post from whenever has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. I'm OK with the conversation evolving and becoming about hip hop, or whatever, but trolling and hijacking a thread isn't OK.
If you've got beef with something Dan wrote, email him and stop cluttering up the intarweb.
Hip Hop is a culture?
Here I thought it was just a bunch of uneducated punks pretending to be cool.
Where is the NAACP when black kids are shooting at police in the Valley? Answer: Nowhere... But you put a camera in front of them and they act like a bunch of Frat boys on Sat night.
i didn't write #23..
9;30 friday morning is way too early for me to be fighting with fools who can't accomodate linear thought. or fools who just like to fight.
linear thought...OH RLY!
Oh Ecce, *sigh*
Do you actually believe any of the things you write?
@22, bellevue ave, not sure who established the "hip-hop community" as one united entity, but in the performances i saw yesterday, there was quite a bit of critiquing of the bigotry and crass fetishization of wealth in much of hip-hop.
Yes I do. I see guys with baggy pants and I want to hit them with my car. Its the height of bad fashion and show a slow mind.
Yes I do. I see guys with baggy pants and I want to hit them with my car. Its the height of bad fashion and it shows a slow mind.
Baggy pants don't equal hip hop. That's fine if you have some sartorial issues, but that's a surface thing that has nothing to do with the politics, music or message of a culture.
150 to 200 people? Where did you learn to count. Try 40 to 50 max.
Perhaps you can explain to me then the "Politics of Hip Hop". Most hip hopsters would rather smoke the chronic, listen to some snoop and think they are badass. They never amount to anything of consequence and most liely will end up under the control of the criminal justice system. Politics is too big a word for them.
you're wild out of touch w/hiphop. you'd think in a city that packs the showbox for blue scholars shows that someone could characterize hiphop with something other than a weak caricature from '92.
that's about as onpoint as a commercial featuring rappin' grannies with dookie rope chains shilling cookies or furniture on TV or something.
ignorance is what shows a slow mind. you can mock my pants- and i bet i could dog your outfit too- but i'd also bet you wouldn't find me slow after talking to me. some of seattle's hiphoppers are the sharpest minds i know.
there's no monolithic hiphop entity- just like i can't blame Skrewdriver on all punks. but like with anything else, there is a hiphop community in town. composed of indiviuals with their own ideas. and some of us are sick of SPD officers beating up on our people! especially when you're talking about 3 of the coolest, most level-headed dudes in our community!
there's assholes and intolerant people in our community like anybody elses. but you see kids in baggy clothing and wanna hit em with your car? sounds like you'd rather drag em behind the motherfucker.
So a gangbanging crackhead in a wheelchair is one of the 3 coolest levelheaded guys in the "Hip Hop community"? Jesus...its worse than I thought.
I do confess that I find it interesting that the only thing that gets the NAACP up in arms waving stupid signs is when a thug gets what he deserves. Birds of a feather maybe?
what-the-fuck ever. clown.
the 3 i'm referring to:
DJ Dv One, DJ/mentor
Rajnii Eddins, poet/MC/teacher
Maikoyo Alley-Barnes, arttist/teacher
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