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The Urban League used to be more in sync with the NAACP, but that was then and this is now.

Reality is somewhere in between, but more close to the NAACP position, IMHO.

Posted by Will in Seattle | June 22, 2007 4:33 PM
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The Urban League is the NAACP's landlord. Whats the big deal? Dont make a big deal out of nothing man. James Bible is the new leader of the NAACP and the NAACP is taking a leadership role. Nothing awkward. The Urban League is a different organization. What are you saying? You thought they were the same? Cuz theyre both black runned organizations? James Kelly and Carl Mack have always worked with the chief and have been friendly with the SPD. I think Mack once did a show were they tased him or some crap. The SPD has been cool with them, and now they are paying back a political favor. They have not been critics of the SPD. James is the new blood. Props to Bible for taking a leadership role. Carl Mack would not have done the same.

Posted by SeMe | June 22, 2007 4:39 PM
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@ 2,

Find the space between the l and the m and calm down.

Jonah's not dissing on Bible or the NAACP (or the Urban League). He thought it was funny that opposite POV press conferences happened at the same place because the the group's with the opposing POVs are in the same building. It's funny stuff for a reporter.

Posted by Josh Feit | June 22, 2007 4:50 PM
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Yeah but the real question is will Michael Chiklis return for Season 7.

Posted by TV Party | June 22, 2007 4:52 PM
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James Kelly is thinking politically. He needs support for the African-American Heritage Museum, which is a great project, but very ambitious.

Posted by yo | June 22, 2007 4:53 PM
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Kelly has the funding. I think he even has housing levy money, this move doesnt make sense. Carl Mack is a friend of the chief, its funny he is in town and leaning on Kelly to do this.

Feit, funny is one thing, but the word that was used was awkward. All Im saying is that the relationship between the two organizations is a landlord tenant relationship.

Posted by SeMe | June 22, 2007 4:59 PM
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@5 - true.

Posted by Will in Seattle | June 22, 2007 5:16 PM
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I love awkwardness. There's a nice book called Awkward on the greeting stand at Elliot Bay that I read for about an hour last week. In my fictitional life as a news reporter I rarely find anything funny. Awkward is where it's at.

This story does sound weird, and the Chief does seem a little too cool for school.

Posted by Garrett | June 22, 2007 5:48 PM
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The NAACP has ALWAYS been more activist than the Urban League, even in its glory days of Ed Pratt (Pratt had to do a lot of activism behind the scenes).

The Urban League building has rented offices to important community groups for almost four decades, not based on towing any particular party line that I know of.

I really don't get how the Carl Mack who once challenged King County Sheriffs so powerfully could be so cowed when it comes to Seattle cops. That's what seems awkward to me. If Mack has facts he'd like to bring forward that haven't yet been aired, I think we'd all love to hear them.

Posted by Trevor | June 22, 2007 5:52 PM
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Good lord. Ever since Mack's male bonding experience with Kerlikowske when they both got tased and then exchanged home phone numbers, he's been a little too tender toward the chief. This is ridiculous. I bet he doesn't know the first thing about the case at issue in the current tempest. Re Kelly, I guess the Mayor bought himself a few press conferences when he allowed the Urban League to buy the African-American Heritage Museum. How unfortunate for people who nominally care about civil rights to allow themselves to be used in this way.

Posted by freddie tuesday | June 22, 2007 9:27 PM
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The Stranger has been around long enough to understand the difference of opinion in the Black Community relating to police relations. If anyone wants to understand the history, do a little research on Weed and Seed and the formation of the African American Heritage Museum in the 1980s and 1990s. As far as who to believe, it makes sense to believe what the victims have to say over the perpetrators; victims have little to lose by telling the truth, and perpetrators have everything to lose. From there, you can make a decision on the opinions of those that side with the victims, and those with the perpetrators.

Posted by t.p.n. | June 23, 2007 9:26 AM
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Letter to the editor of the Seattle Times:
Urban League is a blind, arthritic, three-legged lapdog for SPD and downtown white supremacy.

"I'll be damned to allow any draft report, any incomplete investigation, to ruin the relationship we have" - James Kelley; President, Urban League of Metropolitan Seattle.

It is no mystery as to why the Urban League would have such unconditional love for Police Chief Gil Kerlikowski.

Go back a few years to the day when James Kelley pulled a gun on Kwame Garrett on the campus of Rainier Beach High School in front of both parents and students. The usual penalty for brandishing a firearm on a school campus is a fine and prison time. Yet, he recieved only a fine, community service, and his weapon confiscated by the police!

Fast forward to the recent appointment of former FBI agent and Urban League leader Carver Gayton to lead the African-American Heritage Museum and Cultural Center project. He was installed after Seattle Police evicted founding members and volunteers in the summer of 1999 at gun point, after they dared to complain about the former city-appointed board president Bob Flowers and his staff pocketing funds granted by the city and then witholding financial information from board members.

Clearly, the Urban League of Metropolitan Seattle is a community-based puppet organization for the Nickels administration; like the current Iraqi government is to the Bush administration. This group is just as vile, opportunistic, and reactionary as the various nations who willingly collaborated with Nazi Germany were. On the local level, this unholy alliance is called "domestic neo-colonialism".

(P.S.- Coming soon, the critique of the local NAACP).

Posted by Greg | June 24, 2007 1:52 AM
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Letter to the editor of the Seattle Times:
Urban League is a blind, arthritic, three-legged lapdog for SPD and downtown white supremacy.

"I'll be damned to allow any draft report, any incomplete investigation, to ruin the relationship we have" - James Kelley; President, Urban League of Metropolitan Seattle.

It is no mystery as to why the Urban League would have such unconditional love for Police Chief Gil Kerlikowski.

Go back a few years to the day when James Kelley pulled a gun on Kwame Garrett on the campus of Rainier Beach High School in front of both parents and students. The usual penalty for brandishing a firearm on a school campus is a fine and prison time. Yet, he recieved only a fine, community service, and his weapon confiscated by the police!

Fast forward to the recent appointment of former FBI agent and Urban League leader Carver Gayton to lead the African-American Heritage Museum and Cultural Center project. He was installed after Seattle Police evicted founding members and volunteers in the summer of 1999 at gun point, after they dared to complain about the former city-appointed board president Bob Flowers and his staff pocketing funds granted by the city and then witholding financial information from board members.

Clearly, the Urban League of Metropolitan Seattle is a community-based puppet organization for the Nickels administration; like the current Iraqi government is to the Bush administration. This group is just as vile, opportunistic, and reactionary as the various nations who willingly collaborated with Nazi Germany were. On the local level, this unholy alliance is called "domestic neo-colonialism".

(P.S.- Coming soon, the critique of the local NAACP).

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