what a coincidence. there's a juneteenth celebration going on in my pants right now! you're all invited, of course.
Seattle Juneteenth celebrations were this past weekend.
I'm not much into politics and slavery. They are important subjects to many and I respect that. What I enjoy is writing, even if its [sick] not always grammatically correct.
This past Saturday was Bloomsday, the day people celebrate June 16th, James Joyce's "Ulysses." There had to be gatherings for readings in the city. I was hiking, dang it.
Did anyone attend, and naturally,
How Was It?
Although I'm not a fan of Wikipedia, check out the references. Very many admirable artists have acknowledged the book.
Um, emancipation wasn't enforced anywhere in the Confederacy until surrender, except liberated areas. How could it have been? Do you think Jefferson Davis's slaves walked off the plantation on January 1, 1863? I'll bet they didn't.
Texas was last because they were furthest away. Damn fools didn't know how to use the internet then.
Slavery may be boring to you. Probably all history is then.
Slavery meant that not only were African Amercians enslaved by enslavers, but when we settled the West they couldn't join in the land rush.
Result today: lots of whitey white farmer states in the midwest....no states will all black population.
Except DC and as we know they don't get a vote, well, because they just don't.
The un-enslaved persons also could not participate in those great land grant colleges that Lincoln spurred. You know: Cornell; colleges in Ohio, Illinois, Minnesota and the others.
The freed persons could not equally benefit from opportunities to serve in the armed forces or the GI bill due to enforced discrimination which lasted in law right through the 1970s.
Througout all of this enslaved persons always rebelled -- few of us are taught about the multiple, vigorous slave revolts in the 1800s -- they fought back; they constantly struggled for freedom.
Just like I did when fighting the British.
I get a Holiday because I was Prez, too.
Veterans get a holiday for helping our cause of freedom.
We should celebrate Juneteenth to remember: the end of slavery helped make all of us free. To remember: it doesn't come automatically. To remember: we have to keep struggling for it, even today.
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The end of Slavery should be celebrated, and so should the end of Jim Crow.
The celebrations were at Pratt park at 20th and Yesler as they were last year.
This holiday definitly deserves way more attention. We would do well to replace Thanksgiving with Juneteenth since it actually matters.
History is not boring to me, and I appreciate your analysis. You've stated the case much better than I could have. I agree with you on 99% of your claims.
I just think a lot of history is made up or skewed, and especially so in a political way. As I implied, Wikipedia is not my preferred reference. There are many factual errors, and based on their writing, there are definitely political biases. It is unfortunate that it used so often in place of the standard encyclopedias, which albeit can be dated, have far less errors and are persistent in maintaining neutrality.
I should note that even though support celebrating the end of slavery and Jim Crow, I wouldn't want something like Thanksgiving done away with. Despite its latent Christian overtones it is a very meaningful occasion for a lot of people who are not necessarily Christian, especially immigrant families. It's a uniquely American holiday, and besides any excuse for a feast can only be a good thing.
Good job Fnarf on setting the reccord straight. The emancipation proclomation freed very few slaves, especially since it did not apply to the slave holding states that remained with the Union. So it really isn't a remarkable story at all.
No, longball, it is remarkable, because it does mark the last state. It's just that the delay isn't as sinister as the original post made out.
The Seattle area celebrated its first Juneteenth in Kent, back in 1890.
As noted, the emancipation proclamation did not free any slaves in the Confederacy since, for some odd reason, they didn't seem to recognize Lincoln's authority at the time. It didn't even manage to free the slaves in the so called border states that remained loyal, such as Delaware, Maryland and Kentucky.
Thanks for liking History! One day, it will help folks argue that we shouldn't get rid of the name Washington for States and things just because I owned enslaved persons!
Weird, wasn't it, and pretty much everyone was in on it for a long, long time. Today y'all make Mr. Yuck faces thinking about it, assuming wow, I wouldn't have supprted it were I alive back then. Un hunh.
Guess we can all be very good or very evil, all of us, everyone.
And here's another thing about History -- think of Future History. Yes, just as today, we look back, and scratch our heads wondering "How Could They?" (enslavement, serfdom, oppression of chicks, etc.), why, in the Future, what will they look back to in Our Era and say "How Could They?"
Global Warming, I'd bet.
No national health care.
Campaign corruption donations and giving nonpersons (corporations) the right to make them! IA weird coequivalence on some level: we folks form the 1600s to 1800s took away rights of persons (enslaved persons) to be Legal Persons, yet y'all today is give rights to nonpersons (corporations) to be Legal Persons and make campaign corruption donations.
Oh well, there's always a power elite.
Meanwhile 1/4 of African Amercian males in a city are often without voting rights due to your harsh Drug Laws.
Plus ca change....
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